Much cheaper than buying it online. Good tip. Here's the link to Vintage Speed if anyone likes to browse??

http:/www.vintagespeed.com





Johnson Rod



Southern California

The pictured electric water pump is worth an additional 4-5 horsepower over the stock belt driven unit it replaces and is designed to run all the time the engine runs.  There is no on/off switch based on coolant temperature as is typical with an electric fan as it’s important that coolant be circulating or moving around all the time the engine is running.  Estimated life for the electric pump motor is ~500 hours of continuous running.  This pump design is something that was being worked on for the Engine Masters Competition and have since been developing it for the race crowd.  At this point in time, I’m still working on increasing the flow values.  It could potentially be used on a street vehicle but it’s benefits do not outweigh it’s projected life so I couldn’t whole heartedly recommend it in this application except for the WOW factor.  But a plus factor for a street vehicle would be the ability to run the pump after the engine has shut down for a quicker cool down.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

I like the setup on Harry's car. It's a pretty simple design and easy to switch back to being belt driven - excellent for a weekend racing type of thing.


Lawrenceville, GA

Charlie refers to the Moroso electric drive that runs a belt from an electric motor to a pulley attached to the factory water pump.  It’s simple and has been around for years for the race crowd and is a proven piece.  The water flow is somewhat limited due to the speed of the electric drive but is sufficient for a race car.  I’ve one of these setups on my ’64 Thunderbolt and has worked well for over twenty five years on that particular application.  Best part is the cooling ability after the engine has been shut down.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

Oh, I didn't realize that is a moroso part. I thought it was something he put together. Hmmm.


Lawrenceville, GA

Charlie Mc,

I agree with everything Ted has mentioned.  I use an electric Moroso belt drive to run the water pump on the race truck.  I have never been sure of the flow numbers vs. stock fan belt, but in two years in high temp tracks (Bonneville and El Mirage) I have never over heated.  Like he says, besides the horsepower gain, allowing the engine to cool down faster after turning off the ignition is what works best for me.  Can you imagine what would happen if the engine was close to the boiling point when I turned the engine off and had the conventional system?  It would be boiling in no time.  By the way, I also use an electric fan to move air across the radiator during the cool down.

I like your idea of having the system available for weekend drag racing.  With the electric motor in place, a simple swap of the fan, fan belt and pulley to a Moroso belt drive gear on the water pump shaft and you are off to the staging lanes.  This would help solve a problem I saw at the Y-Block shootout.  When competitors were in both the Y-Block and regular bracket racing,  they were going around so fast it was difficult to get the engine cooled down enough to start the next race.  This is a small factor in Harry's and Ted's success, but it does give them a competitive edge to run consistent dial-ins.

BFOOTER3, sorry for getting off the trail of your post, sometimes it is just too tempting

This site just keeps getting better and better.................

Charlie Burns Laton, Ca (South of Fresno)







BurnsRacing981@gmail.com

Cool! I may just add one when I make the new wire harness early next year. Were you able to use the predrilled holes in the bracket or did you have to add one? I notice that they want two bolts for mounting in the instructions.


Lawrenceville, GA

Charlie:

I don't know if you noticed my setup at EXPO.  I use a heater blower motor with a pulley added to drive the original water pump pulley and fan.  Controlled by a thermostatic switch.  Keeps the Hurricane cool and cools it between rounds, but the downside is current draw, about 10 amps.  After two days of racing and engine cooling, I ran the battery down Sunday morning.  Should have charged the battery overnight, but I thought the alternator would do the job.  I have to think that at speed with ram air coming through the radiator, the fan speeds the water pump up and I get more circulation.

John

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

I had not noticed it. I'm always staring at your blower. I'll check my pictures. It must be in some of the shots.


Lawrenceville, GA

Charlie,

In reply to your question of using existing bolt holes in the bracket, yes, I did.  It was an easy fabrication to mount it to the right two side bolts in the timing cover.  I did need to use longer bolts and space it out for alignment with the Moroso water pump pulley.  It would appear that there would be and interference between the bracket and motor with the stock water pump pulley.  Perhaps you could install and remove the whole Moroso unit before and after a race.  It wouldn't be that much trouble.  

Charlie Burns Laton, Ca (South of Fresno)







BurnsRacing981@gmail.com