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MplsMike (4/22/2020)
Capelo, it’s been a week since your last post. We are worried about you! I hope you are still making good progress.



Thanks for the interest, everything is fine here. I have no news, I have everything ready waiting for the heating hoses to arrive so that I can fill the cooling circuit and then start the engine. I am also a little worried about the connection of the fuel line from the pump to the carb, when I filled the carb I lost some fuel, because of the carb joint I dried it, I squeezed but I don't know when there is pressure if it will lose again what it would be a serious problem 😏
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with this connection is the one with which I am not very convinced.


The one on the left is the original flare that is double and I could only make it simple that you see on the left.
I am also looking at another option.

I am also looking at another option.
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A single flare is ok for fuel line.


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I’ll have to disagree with Charlie regarding the use of a single flare end on the fuel line.  And I also have an issue with using copper instead of steel for fuel lines.  I’ve been both ways early on (teenager) and the single flare ends to have a tendency to split at the flare opening while copper is seamed tubing which also has a tendency to crack along the seams when vibration is present.
 
A fire as a result of a broken or cracked line would not make for a happy day.  My recommendation is a steel line with the appropriate double flare.  The quality of the flaring tool also makes a difference.  If you need some kind of pictorial showing how to do double flares, just let me know and I’ll see what I can work up.

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Ted (4/25/2020)
I’ll have to disagree with Charlie regarding the use of a single flare end on the fuel line.  And I also have an issue with using copper instead of steel for fuel lines.  I’ve been both ways early on (teenager) and the single flare ends to have a tendency to split at the flare opening while copper is seamed tubing which also has a tendency to crack along the seams when vibration is present.
 
A fire as a result of a broken or cracked line would not make for a happy day.  My recommendation is a steel line with the appropriate double flare.  The quality of the flaring tool also makes a difference.  If you need some kind of pictorial showing how to do double flares, just let me know and I’ll see what I can work up.



thanks for the comments, an illustration never hurts. A question, how big is the thread of the image connection?
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capelo (4/25/2020)
thanks for the comments, an illustration never hurts. A question, how big is the thread of the image connection?

The size designation for the fitting that goes into the Summit fuel line is ‘3/8” Inverted Flare’.  A normal straight threaded fitting will not work as it does need a bevel on the fitting to match the bevel within the fuel line so insure a positive seal.


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TUTORIAL  FOR  DOUBLE  FLARING  TUBING
 
Remove burrs from inside of cut end of tubing
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/526b94d5-fbe9-41f1-9201-07e2.jpg 
 
Here’s the double flaring tool as a kit for the various tubing sizes
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/54d4cf86-bac3-465c-95d9-ae40.jpg 
 
Select the appropriate adapter.  In your particular instance, use the one labeled ‘3/8’
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/c22b22fd-d609-476e-aab0-311f.jpg 
 
Install the tubing end in the flaring bar so the end of it protrudes to the level of the first ledge on the adapter.  Tighten the bar so the tube does not slip.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b646a4cc-668b-4bc3-af22-b2f2.jpg 
 
Put oil or some kind of lubricant on both the stem side of the adapter and at the end of the tube in the flaring bar.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/fbbae9a1-4515-4a6d-8daa-2620.jpg 
 
Place the adapter with the stem inside the tube.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/8fa23379-0bf1-4395-ace3-fcbb.jpg 
 
Center the flaring yoke over the adapter.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/943d1891-d26a-4738-84e7-6ea1.jpg 
 
Turn the feed screw on the yoke until the adapter is flush with the surface of the flaring bar.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/2f65aa63-d18e-4bfe-9d8a-e6eb.jpg 
 
Remove the yoke and examine the partially flared end of the tubing  to insure there is no splitting occurring and it's even all the way around.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/4f0c35bc-3c90-4919-950f-fa68.jpg 
 
Reinstall the flaring yoke and center it over the end of the tubing.
  http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/1546d5ee-b018-4404-a11c-8c18.jpg 
  
Again turn the yoke feed screw until it as tight as you can get it doing it by hand.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/bcbb5f88-3550-4a21-b2c9-f478.jpg 
 
Remove the flaring yoke and examine the completed flare.  If it looks like it does not have a surface that’s flattened out enough, reinstall the yoke again and screw it down tighter.
 http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/8ffead90-77d7-43b0-8044-bc49.jpg
 
Remove the completed tubing from the flaring bar and examine it for any defects.  At this point it is expected to good to go.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/8ebb747a-09ed-4180-a42a-d216.jpg 

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/79dc4c7f-a188-4b3f-9dc4-3ea4.jpg 



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Now put the OH CRAP flare nut on the tube.  

Please remember the flare nut MUST be on the tube BEFORE you do the flare if there are any bends or the other end has already been flared.

Ask me how I know this Lol

Great Tutorial TED   as always
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Doing a test:


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Is that copper or nicopp?


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