I'm not a salesman, but I occasionally
buy & sell items on eBay (never timing chains, eBay name: simplyconnected). I'm a Ford restorer, relentlessly searching for better products and methods for our common 'labor of love,' restoring Fords.
Some restorers are nearly militant about keeping everything 'bone stock.' That's not me, I like electric WS wipers, disk brakes, and I'd never dream of loading up my family in the '59 and running the freeway with bias-ply tires and no seatbelts.
I am grateful for this forum, where restorers freely help other restorers in their passion. You guys have a treasure-trove of experience, resources, and talent, and I am very pleased to be welcomed here.
where do you get that roller set? I have 2 roll master sets, they both have slop worse then my origional links type, i need to get it replace, timing at 500 rpm is all over the place.
HoLun, I simply called Tee-Bird Products in Pennsylvania (800) 423-3723, and spoke with Salesman, Ellis. He hooked me up with this American-made timing chain set, out of Elgin Illinois:
I probably paid too much, I don't know, but I think Tee-Bird is in the ballpark.
My engine machine shop owner had a Millings catalog listing for this timing chain number, but NOT the sprockets (very strange). Millings calls it "heavy duty." We'll see.
Hoosier, this is America! We're all free to exercise our personal preferences. If you like link chains, everyone carries them at a very reasonable price. Enjoy.
Ted, you have a wealth of background and knowledge regarding timing chains. Thank You for sharing your experiences, testing and using both chain types. I believe the more info we all get, the better we can make educated choices. I too, remember the days when cam sprockets were 'nylon.' After years of heat and stress, the polymers would bake out, they broke apart, and pistons tried closing valves. GM was the first, Ford followed. It wasn't pretty. If that wasn't ugly enough, Ford used rubber timing belts, starting with Pinto in '71, and Escort in '81. I owned both.
Rick, I agree. This was an 'unknown' engine I bought from a man parting out his '59 Galaxie in the Boston area. He drove the car into his shop, put it up on a hoist, and after noticing extensive frame rot, decided to part the car out. I bought the engine, Cruise-o-Matic, steering column, brake pedal support, and driveshaft. He threw in a T&C radio and all the linkage. After engine teardown, the lower end looked beautiful, but I bored the cylinders .060"
My stock 1959 292 was oil-starved in two areas, rocker arm shafts (and all the rocker arms), and timing chain. Those little tubes did a good job of diverting oil away from the rocker arms and down the holes. Consequently, dirt and varnish plugged all the rocker arm holes because oil pressure was at atomspheric (zero). This was a stock 292 Cleveland Engine. McTim's video convinced me to plug those tube holes with NO relief holes, which forces oil through all the rocker arms. The old timing chain sprocket pictures shown above, speak for themselves.
But this is a new day. Romeo and Windsor modular engines have always used roller chains; 4-valve engines use four, two long and two short. For sixteen years I beat the crap out of my 351W, fitted with a roller chain (on Edelbrock Performer RPM heads, driving daily to Ford Rouge, Dearborn). Wear: negligible. Certainly not nearly as bad as every link chain I ever owned, regardless of brand.
Certainly, today's time proven technology with better materials are far superior to the resources they had back in the '50's. Ford's accomplishments were amazing, considering what they had to work with.
Ford Motor Co., Dearborn
Royal Oak, Michigan (Four miles north of Detroit, and 12 miles NORTH of Windsor, Canada). That's right, we're north of Canada.
Ford 292 Y-Block major overhaul by simplyconnected