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Alternator conversion for 312 Y-Block Mercury

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Rusty_S85
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KULTULZ (12/9/2018)
Here is a FORD Y-BLOCK dedicated (1G) BRKT ASSY -

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/143147e6-7b5f-4280-b4c1-eb73.jpg


Nice, just curious why not go with the powermaster powergen and reuse the OE brackets?


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Why convert and go with a new alternator when you can get a OEM Ford Alternator used for 56-58 fords?

100A 15V alternator - 56/59
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/97ee6bab-9a26-406e-96d9-91af.png
30A or 50A 15V Alternator - 56/
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/04da72b2-51b6-4b52-baf8-97c2.png

And part numbers for the alternator and regulator based off engine and year.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ef68556b-cb96-4bea-9a3a-9544.png



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KULTULZ (12/9/2018)
Here is a FORD Y-BLOCK dedicated (1G) BRKT ASSY -

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/143147e6-7b5f-4280-b4c1-eb73.jpg

That's a nice neat Installation. Is that something You came up with yourself or is it One You purchased?

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Uploads/Images/a82cee8f-be33-4d66-b65d-fcd8.jpg  http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/339ed844-0bc3-4c73-8368-5dd3.jpg
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"That's a nice neat Installation. Is that something You came up with yourself or is it One You purchased?"

Guess it would have been thoughtful if I included the source ... Crying

https://carcrap.net/product/272-292-312-ford-alternator-mtg-kit-y-block-thu/



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"Why convert and go with a new alternator when you can get a OEM Ford Alternator used for 56-58 fords?"

Those are LEECE-NEVILLE. They were used for POLICE/FIRE, etc. Would be hard to find today and the appearance is not good (IMO)

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/deef9520-aadc-4ef2-9c5d-da12.jpg



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Rusty_S85 (12/9/2018)
Why convert and go with a new alternator when you can get a OEM Ford Alternator used for 56-58 fords?

100A 15V alternator - 56/59
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/97ee6bab-9a26-406e-96d9-91af.png
30A or 50A 15V Alternator - 56/
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/04da72b2-51b6-4b52-baf8-97c2.png

And part numbers for the alternator and regulator based off engine and year.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ef68556b-cb96-4bea-9a3a-9544.png


If You are going to go to the Trouble of Converting to an Alternator there's lots of Choices in makes and Amps.I did One on my last '56 using the old Style 3 Wire Ford Setup. I like the Bracket shown. Looks much more Professional than some of the manufactured Ones I have seen. I made my own using Information off the Web.Uses the Original Brackets with Threaded Rod and Spacers. Looked alright. Worked fine.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Uploads/Images/a82cee8f-be33-4d66-b65d-fcd8.jpg  http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/339ed844-0bc3-4c73-8368-5dd3.jpg
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Why convert and go with a new alternator when you can get a OEM Ford Alternator used for 56-58 fords?

100A 15V alternator - 56/59
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/97ee6bab-9a26-406e-96d9-91af.png
30A or 50A 15V Alternator - 56/
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/04da72b2-51b6-4b52-baf8-97c2.png

And part numbers for the alternator and regulator based off engine and year.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ef68556b-cb96-4bea-9a3a-9544.png


If You are going to go to the Trouble of Converting to an Alternator there's lots of Choices in makes and Amps.I did One on my last '56 using the old Style 3 Wire Ford Setup. I like the Bracket shown. Looks much more Professional than some of the manufactured Ones I have seen. I made my own using Information off the Web.Uses the Original Brackets with Threaded Rod and Spacers. Looked alright. Worked fine.

Honestly, I would love to go with the GenerNator, but first time I contacted him he only offered one wire hook ups he wouldn't do one to hook up oem and use the external regulator, he proclaimed they were junk and didn't last.  Funny considering all my vehicles my 56, 63, 78, and 82 year model vehicles with external regulators still sport the oem factory regulator.  But I emailed him a few years later and he does it using the external regulator as the rewire point but it wont function and he can at extra cost include a light hook up so the gen light will function all for $895 without the gen light.  Im like screw that I will just stick with my oem generator I could rebuild it thousands of times for the cost of that one genernator and then god knows what kind of dependability there is on that.  at least if my generator goes out I can rebuild it or replace it, his you have to mail back to him as he custom makes it in your old oem case which means once he passes away you are screwed now.

Powermaster sells one now but its a one wire hook up but at first they didn't have a generator light hook up but now they offer it for around $500 but its still a one wire internally regulated alternator that wont hook up to OEM harnesses so makes it pointless to spend money on a reproduction wiring harness having to chop it all up.


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3 Wire Alternator works good. Gen Light works too.

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If you're wanting an original appearance then I can understand the high cost as that is a niche market.  If you don't need it to look original, 127 options for an externally regulated alternator:
https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/alternators-and-generators/department/ignitions-electrical/voltage-compatibility/12/pulley-style/v-belt/regulator-style/external?N=4294944858%2B4294951516%2B4294944880%2B4294948909%2B4294921065&PageSize=100&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending&tw=alternator&sw=Alternators%20and%20Generators

Most brackets will be for a GM style alternator so you will probably have to modify something that is already made or make your own brackets for anything else.


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That's the thing for me if I were to do it I want it to look like a generator.  Which I can always run the powermaster powergen series they offer and chop the wiring up but I planned on buying all new wiring harnesses for the car as mine is old and brittle.  Cant justify spending big money on a powergen and a new harness only to cut the harness up to wire up the powergen cause they don't offer a oem style hook up.


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