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56 Tbird needs to steer and stop a little better....

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I've seen several references to Granada spindles. I'm gathering parts to rebuild the front end as soon as cruising season is over, and disk brakes are on the table. Do the spindles require any reworking to fit the Tbird ball joints? Are there any part numbers available for the rest of the disk brake components? What's the recommended master cylinder setup with the disks? I've also seen some references to Lincoln Versailles spindles, but not much hard info.
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I talked with a local member of the Tbird club last week. He was looking at my 57 Bird asking about the Granada brake conversion I did. He said that one of the club members used a kit from one of the Bird parts retailers to do the conversion. He is having problems with the dual master cylinder being too close to the stock log exhaust manifold. He said it is boiling the brake fluid. I have Sanderson headers so no problem for me but it is something to think about if planning to stay with the stock exhaust manifolds.

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MarkMontereyBay (4/25/2013)[hr... He is having problems with the dual master cylinder being too close to the stock log exhaust manifold. He said it is boiling the brake fluid....


I bought an inexpensive replica Corvette Disk/Drum MC on the 'bay (with a cool finned cover), along with a combo valve. I ended up cutting a spare brake push rod to fit. Installation pics here. The MC was a close fit with less than an inch clearance from the stock exhaust manifold. An extended heat shield would not fit, due to the width of the Corvette-style MC. I ended up cutting a scrap piece of self-adhesive fiberglass-backed aluminum heat shield material, and applied it to the bottom of the MC. This seems to work well. This week I also had the exhaust manifolds thermally coated, which should reduce the under hood temps.

I'm pretty happy with the Grenada/Corvette setup for the brakes. Even with the front power assist, the brakes require a firm foot. They are, however, consistent and reliable, and I haven't had any fade issues.

I really like the slightly lowered stance from the new spindles and Aerostar springs. I shimmed the lower bump stops and have not experienced any tire-rub. The spindle radius arms are at a different angle than stock, and interfere with the turn stops on the lower a-arm at full lock... this keeps me from getting the tightest possible turning circle. I could trim the turn stops with a grinder, but I haven't noticed any issue with the turning radius so I probably won't bother. I also don't like the idea of cutting on an otherwise stock a-arm. All of the other mods I've done to this car are reversible.
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I have the same issue , However using DOT 5 works just fine. Tell the guy to make sure the original heat/drip shield is in place and use DOT 5 not the cheaper fluids.

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Forum Post 56 Tbird needs to steer and stop a little better.... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post The biggest deal is that the Versailles spindle bolt right on with no... By MoonShadow ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I talked with a local member of the Tbird club last week. He was... By MarkMontereyBay ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]MarkMontereyBay (4/25/2013)[/b][hr... He is having problems... By skygazer ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have the same issue , However using DOT 5 works just fine. Tell the... By 312T85Bird ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post So far, I have this kit ...and a set of these guys ...and I... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post CASCO has a extra long heat shield that fits the longer dual master... By paul2748 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I was going to fabricate a better heat shield, but if Casco has them... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Sometimes you get lucky... I found a wrecked Versailles (hit in... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I just finished the conversion on my 57 Bird. On the advice of others... By MarkMontereyBay ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post That's good info. Did you change the bore of the rear cylinders or... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post That's good info. Did you change the bore of the rear cylinders or... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post The original 57Bird rear cylinders and the Granada pushrod. I have yet... By MarkMontereyBay ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post You need new knees, too, I guess. Mine gave out a few years ago and I... By oldguy668 ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Just a question re using DOT- 5 brake fluid? Is it compatible with #3... By PF Arcand ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Paul Dot 5.1 is compatible with Dot 3 and 4. Dot 5 is silicone based... By The Master Cylinder ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post I installed a dual Master Cylinder on our '57 Bird the part # is... By 312T85Bird ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Sadly I cannot find my research papers, however what I did learn is... By 312T85Bird ( 13 Years Ago )
Forum Post Using DOT 5 brake fluid and the standsrd drip shield (Some refer to... By 312T85Bird ( 13 Years Ago )
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