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CK and his 55Tbird (1/27/2014)
Hi JohnHow do I order parts from you if I can't call, as I'm in OZ.

I'd like to run the hi-rise with an EFI carb (F.A.S.T)

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Hi JohnHow do I order parts from you if I can't call, as I'm in OZ.

I'd like to run the hi-rise with an EFI carb (F.A.S.T)

Chris
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I have a 1957 F-100 with a 272, looking for a intake manifold. I've looked all over for a Edelbrock.... any recommendations? I'm thinking of using a double barrel crab. All I've done to the engine is new gaskets, pumps and filters. Nothing radical...
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I think you'll find the Demon's about the same physical size overall. The Road Demon and the the holley 600 are not terribly large.

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John Mummert (2/14/2013)
I wonder what happened to the last post I left on the thread. Lost in the ether? ...

John. Some of the kinks are still being worked out on the forum upgrade but they are slowly being resolved. Is this the post you’re looking for?

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I wonder what happened to the last post I left on the thread. Lost in the ether?Anyway, the High Rise and Low Rise manifolds are the same casting. We only cut the carb pad down to fit under low hoods. Otherwise the same manifold.
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Ted (2/3/2013) "there is only about 1/4" difference in height between the Thunderbird intake and the 'Hi Rise' version"


If only a 1/4" difference still warranted the production/inventory hassle of a second manifold model, then likely it isn't only my imagination that my '55 Bird runs stronger with near that much additional spacer height (PCV spacer with two gaskets vs. OEM 5 gasket stack) under the teapot! I should probably now add as many gaskets as hood clearance will stand (?).

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DANIEL TINDER (2/3/2013)
Ted,

Curious: Is that "optimum intake tract length" across the board, or is either torque or high rpm HP favored when shorter? Also wonder if you have found any difference in height between the carb. brands that make appropriately sized models? Was the height of the 1/4" taller manifold likely limited by hood clearance when using an OEM '57 T-Bird aircleaner?

Daniel.  Optimum intake tract length is not expected to be the same across the board.  And optimum even on the same combination depends alot upon driving characteristics and the rpm range being targeted for.  Head flow, camming, exhaust, ignition timing, and other variables all enter into the equation.  If one item is changed, then all items typically must be re-examined again.  But for a single four equipped Y, a 2” high carb spacer tends to give the best overall results but the spacer design itself may vary.  Even with the Blue Thunder and Mummert intakes being very similar in design, each manifold has its own preference to spacer design or style.

 

The factory has it easy in that all vehicles of a given model have the same engine combination and tuneup.  For the hobbyist who is constantly changing up his combination, then a new tuning scenario presents itself with each change.

 

But beyond all that and as a general rule, torque values increase as intake tract lengths increase while horsepower numbers may go up with decreases in intake tract lengths.  My roadster engine is now making 520 ft/lbs torque and much of that is attributed to the sheet metal intake it is running.

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kidcourier (2/3/2013)
  I replaced a iron "B" manifold/600 cfm Holly carb and a 3"round air cleaner with a "Blue Thunder"/525 cfm Demon carb and 3" oval air cleaner and couldn"t close the hood unless I removed the 1" carb spacer on my '57 Courier! So how much height difference is there between Johns lowriser manifold and the "BT" ?
Same height


I know that the Demon is about twice the size of the Holly(say humongous). Will running a couple of gaskets between the carb/alum manifold create any problems after reaching running temp.? KID
No but be careful in tightening down the carb ears.

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  I replaced a iron "B" manifold/600 cfm Holly carb and a 3"round air cleaner with a "Blue Thunder"/525 cfm Demon carb and 3" oval air cleaner and couldn"t close the hood unless I removed the 1" carb spacer on my '57 Courier! So how much height difference is there between Johns lowriser manifold and the "BT" ? I know that the Demon is about twice the size of the Holly(say humongous)Will running a couple of gaskets between the carb/alum manifold create any problems after reaching running temp.? KID


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