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I don't agree. The design of an FE block is deep skirted like a Y Block but it is not a Y Block. There are so many unique things that make the Y Block. The same logic could be used to say that a small block Chevy technically is a small block Ford, (the blocks are similar enough), but you're not going to convince a Ford or Chevy guy of that. And if we had used that logic, the Y Block would not have been developed as far as it has been. There will always be easier options but they are not as rewarding.


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It took about 10 years to get new heads for the Y-Block & a new 4 Bbl intake manifold, & that only happened due to the interest & perserverence of John Mummert. We should be thankful just for that! A new block? It seems highly unlikely to ever happen. Our favorite engine is a nostalgia item. A new & substantially altered engine wouldn't be the same. As already mentioned, it would seem more realistic to try to get replacement parts made, such as 312 Cranks, main bearings for the same & quality cam bearings & lifters, along with other parts. Where would anyone get parts for a new semi "orphan" engine?.. A bigger Ford nostalgia engine already exists. The F.E. dates from 1958. As for the need for more power, recent developments have resulted in substantial increases, thanks largely to Mummert & Ted Eaton. Just take a look at the recent 337 cu. in street engine test, that Mummet issued, apparently for automatic tranmission cars. 293 H.P. & 420 Ft Lbs torque at under 5500 RPM! That's better than one of G.M.s upper SBC crate engines, which is rated at 385/385. For street users, which is likely most of us, how much power is realistic, especially from a nostalgia engine?..

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Thanks for the response Charlie. I agree with your sentiments entirely and was merely playing the devil's advocate.

I am in awe of the advances made by Ted Eaton, John Mummert and others, but this has all been done with the Y BLOCK. Their results bear testament to how good the basic design was. I would be reluctant to jump on the band wagon of replacing the basic block with later technology. This to me is the essence of the beast.

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I will be in line to buy a new block. The short block is the foundation upon which the engine is built. What we are left with is a diminishing supply of 50 year old pieces. John Mummert has stepped up to build modernized heads and intake, A modernized block using readily available componets that cosmetically resembles the orginal equipment will be fine.

There at least 3 manufacturers of FE blocks out there, only one of which resembles the original in appearance. They are all selling. John has trouble keeping up with demand for his products. Those that insist on original parts should hope the aftermarket produces new parts. More of the old parts will be left for them.

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Agree with others, a Y block is unique, Keep a Y block, bigger bores is great, bigger cam etc, but keep it to fit conventional Y block parts. I drive a 50 year old car because i want the feel of a 50 year old car, you want it to feel new, jump in something new.

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Correction; In my post of Dec. 20th it states that Mummert's recent proposed crate engine, tested at 293 H.P. & 420 lb ft. It should have read, just slightly short of "393" H.P..

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PF Arcand (12/20/2011)
It took about 10 years to get new heads for the Y-Block
Paul. Actually took considerably less than that once Rick's half hearted effort flopped. More like 4 years.

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Frank: Didn't Dove give it a look before Speedsmith/Rick ?

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Probably the biggest part of the market for a "new"  Y-block would be 55-57 T-bird resto's.

Y's seem to be getting somewhat more desirable for street rods too.

Toss in racers and some trucks also.

With a new block & crank you could build a brand new Y-block. (w/o any Ford parts).

Ron.

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Paul, They did. I think Ted has more info on that effort.

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