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So I picked up this dual quad manifold from Ebay to use on my 292 and I would really like to find out some more about it. There are several casting numbers, one looks like a date, but nothing that points to a manufacturer.



Can anyone help me out with this?



Thank you in advance.



Here's the manifold from above.







and the casting that looks like a date, 5 28 57







Here's the bottom







and the casting numbers that are on the bottom - S - and what looks like - ECG9424-D-









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THE INTAKE IS A FACTORY FORD PART THAT WOULD HAVE CAME ON A E CODE CAR, IN 1957. SHOULD HAVE A PAIR OF TEA POT HOLLY'S ON IT. SOME WERE DATE CODED ON THE TOP, LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE, SOME UNDERNEATH AND SOME HAD NO DATE. THE E CODE CAR HAD A H.P. RATING OF 270 AND 285 H.P. IN RACE TRIM.   TOM DRUMMOND MIDWEST DIRECTOR 57 FORDS INTERNATIONAL

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ALLMOST FORGOT, YOU NEED AN E CODE VALLEY PAN OR AFTER MARKET FLAT PAN, OR YOU CAN CRACK THE EARS OF THE MANIFOILD, AS THE BOTTOM OF THE INTAKE HITS THE VALLEY PAN.

  JUST A MIDNIGHT CRUISE DOWN THUNDER ROAD!!! TOM DRUMMOND MIDWEST DIRECTOR 57 FORD INTERNATIONAL
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ALLMOST FORGOT, YOU NEED AN E CODE VALLEY PAN OR AFTER MARKET FLAT PAN, OR YOU CAN CRACK THE EARS OF THE MANIFOILD, AS THE BOTTOM OF THE INTAKE HITS THE VALLEY PAN.




Thanks for the info.

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Do you have any Ford documentation on the 285 H.P. engine?

Thanks,Oldmics

P.S. The "S" on the manifold is the factory identification on who cast the aluminum.

Schmeller Aluminum Foundry in Cleveland (Thanks to Dennis K for that nugget Smile)

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OLDMICS, YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS BUILDING THE 26& 99 RACERS . THEY BOTH WERE FACTORY 2X4 INTAKES(56 STYLE). I RECIEVED A LOT OF INFORMATION AND HELP FROM RALPH MOODY. HE LENT ME A LOT OF PAPER WORK AND SUCH FROM FORD TO HOLMAN MOODY IN 57. I WILL TRY TO SEE IF I CAN PUT MY HANDS ON ANY OF IT . IT DID LIST THE CAM CHANGE TO BRING A 270 HORSE TO A 285. RALPH ALSO TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE SUPERCHARGED 57 CUSTOM THAT HE RAN IN THE U.S.A.C. SERIES, AND THE CHANGES THEY MADE TO THE MCCULLOCH UNIT TO MAKE IT RUN ON FULL BOOST THE WHOLE RACE. BURN UP A UNIT IN ONE RACE. BUT HE WON EVERY RACE RAN AT THE MILWAUKEE MILE IN 57. TOM

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Tom

That camshaft documentation AND anything else would be most helpful.

I have a fair amount of parts/info/paperwork about the dual quad 56 + 57 setups but there seems to be a gap in any verifiable info from a credible source (such as Ford documentation) on the 285 H.P. ratings.

It is listed as an availiable engine in one of the Ford sales brochours that I have.

I"ll bet Smokey and Ralph were on the same page by welding the blower controls wide open.Good for one race only.

Thanks for diggin,Oldmics

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Let me confuse the issue some more! I believe the 285 hp cam is what is refered to today as the Blower cam. Need hurricane and Mummert to jump on that. If so, Mummert is or was making a reproduction. There were actually two cams, one being the standard 57 cam, same as the 245 hp 312's. The other was the "Blower" cam. Eventually rated by NHRA at 345 hp. Then there's another one that may, or may not have been an Isky. That was developed for or by Holmann-Moody, Bud Moore. It is supposed to be more aggressive yet. Dennis K might have some more on that.

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Frank

I"m pretty sure your correct about the use of a blower cam to make the 285 rating.I"m also aware of dual valve springs installed on the heads of the 285 setups.There are also reports of it being dealer installed.

And then I wonder if the blower cam was installed the same as on a supercharged equipted car?

Its just seems to be zero Ford information about that configuration availiable that I have ever come across.

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Old mics:

Gonna throw a little more fuel on your fire.  Years ago I bought a B7A-C cam from my local Ford dealer.  When it came in, EDB-B was stamped on the tube, and was marked through and B7A-C was hand lettered on.  I put the cam in, and soon after I acquired a used B7A-C, and lost track of where they went.  Later, I was checking cam events and reported them to Bruce at YBM.  The cam in my T-Bird did not match up with the 290* blower cam.  I don't know what it is, but I think it was that EDB cam.  A couple years ago I had the engine out of the Bird and took out the rear cam plug because I thought it was leaking oil.  On the back of the cam is stamped B7A-C.  Gordon Payne told me that replacement cams were hand stamped.  I wonder if this is a '56 260 hp cam, and possibly carried over to the 285?????

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