I think you,ll find the argy blocks are no different than normal and have solid lifters.

  AussieBill            YYYY    Forever Y Block     YYYY

 Down Under, Australia

As far as using Slovers intake adapter plates, as per the rules intake manifolds must be cast specifically for the engine.  Retrofitting an intake manifold from another engine family by way of spacers or other modifications is not permitted.

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It took three years to get the mushroom tappet rule amended so a Y could run.  Regarding rules changes in general, at the conclusion of the competition, competitors are asked for rules changes or amendments in preparation for the next years competition.  That would be the logical time to do a formal request.  But there’s nothing preventing a mass influx of emails to the rules committee in the meantime stating the case that engines that came from the factory without hydraulic lifters should have some kind of exception in order to compete.  Even suggesting duration and lift limits specific to these engines to help level the playing field with the hydraulic lifter competitors might help.   The Ford Y-Block and the Ford 427 SOHC engines are good examples of solid lifter only engines.  If you can think of any other American made V8’s that came only with solid lifters, then these should be brought up also.

 

The email address for the rules committee is in the rules.  Here’s the link to the current rules.

http://krang.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/challenge/1001em_2010_emc_%20rules_1_28_10_final.pdf

Be aware that the rules are in a constant state of being updated as questions arise so be sure to go to the EMC website for the latest rules.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

e-mail sent.


Lawrenceville, GA

Ted:

Weren't the non SOHC 427 side oilers available only with solid lifters?  The hydraulic 427s were top oilers, were they not?

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

About Ted's question about other engines that were solid lifter. I doubt that anyone would consider entering one, but I believe the original Studebaker OHV V-8, introduced in Commanders in 1951, was a solid lifter engine...

Paul

Paul.  Thanks for the tidbit regarding the early Studebaker V8.  If that particular block or engine family was not later retrofitted with hydraulic lifters, then it would be like the Y and a solid lifter only engine.  The FE’s when first introduced in 1958 were solid lifters but hydraulic lifter versions were introduced into that family of engines not long after the engines introduction.

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The 427 FE sideoilers received hydraulic lifter capability in 1968 as well as the 427 service blocks manufactured after this point.  Many of the aftermarket FE blocks also have hydraulic lifter capability regardless of the oil gallery layout so I doubt you’d see any sympathy from the rules committee on wedge headed FE’s that were solid lifter only on the blocks.  Because FE’s were available with hydraulics, if someone wanted to use this engine as the basis of an EMC entry, they would be expected to simply use a hydraulic lifter capable block.  Because the 427 SOHC was overhead camshaft, hydraulic lifter versions just didn’t make it into production so this engine is considered a solid lifter or solid tappet only design.  There are some specific GM engines that also came with solid lifters but hydraulics were also available in the same family of engines so the ‘solid lifter only’ argument on those particular engines would not stick in this case either.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

The SOHC is permitted, too. Certainly not hydraulic in any way. That indicates to me that they just aren't aware about the Y.



I was just reading on wikipedia, it says the cammer is the only engine ever banned from NASCAR. They need to check the history books.


Lawrenceville, GA

i think it was also banned by the NHRA too around 67?

This ain't no L-Kamino!

Just sent my 2 cents worth into enginemasters concerning the yblock being included again.

-Gary Burnette-

Gary,



How or where does someone go to do the same as you. I would like very much to add a few cents to that cause.



Mark Hebard

57 Black Tbird 312/auto