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Lawrenceville, GA

As far as using Slovers intake adapter plates, as per the rules intake manifolds must be cast specifically for the engine.  Retrofitting an intake manifold from another engine family by way of spacers or other modifications is not permitted.

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It took three years to get the mushroom tappet rule amended so a Y could run.  Regarding rules changes in general, at the conclusion of the competition, competitors are asked for rules changes or amendments in preparation for the next years competition.  That would be the logical time to do a formal request.  But there’s nothing preventing a mass influx of emails to the rules committee in the meantime stating the case that engines that came from the factory without hydraulic lifters should have some kind of exception in order to compete.  Even suggesting duration and lift limits specific to these engines to help level the playing field with the hydraulic lifter competitors might help.   The Ford Y-Block and the Ford 427 SOHC engines are good examples of solid lifter only engines.  If you can think of any other American made V8’s that came only with solid lifters, then these should be brought up also.

 

The email address for the rules committee is in the rules.  Here’s the link to the current rules.

http://krang.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/challenge/1001em_2010_emc_%20rules_1_28_10_final.pdf

Be aware that the rules are in a constant state of being updated as questions arise so be sure to go to the EMC website for the latest rules.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

I think you,ll find the argy blocks are no different than normal and have solid lifters.

  AussieBill            YYYY    Forever Y Block     YYYY

 Down Under, Australia

Thats a good ideal if they are hydraulics Ill give some for shiping

Hears a link of them the pic of the block does look hyraulic but i cant read a word there saying LOL

http://www.fordv8argentina.com.ar/292fase2.htm

http://www.fordv8argentina.com.ar/v8292272.htm

86 mustang 351c

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West virgina

Ted,

Slovers casts an adapter for the MEL to use the newer 385 series intake manifolds.

http://www.electronic-pr.com/pr/new_slo_001.html

Or are adapters not allowed in EMC?

Larry D

Winnipeg, MB Canada Eh!


'57 Fairlane 500 Club Victoria

'58 Custom 300 Tudor

'56 Crown Victoria

'61 Starliner Z Code

'51 Ford Victoria

are the 2nd generation Argentinian blocks made for hydraulics? also why not try some of their heads which are more small block ford design?

I think we need to talk to that Argentinian Y block guru who has posted on this site before and get a fund going so he can ship up some parts that would really have the people scratching their heads as to what it is.

55 Vicky & customline

58 Rack Dump, 55 F350 yard truck, 57 F100

59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

I'm with you Charlie, they should let the Y compete, it came with solid lifters and should be grandfathered in period.

-Gary Burnette-

How do we contact them to make them aware that a Y is not Hydraulic. If not for this year, we should be sure they know for next year. I think it can be a real competitor with the aluminum heads.

Too bad 6's aren't allowed. I think a 300 would be neat.


Lawrenceville, GA

The rules are clear in that only hydraulic lifters are allowed.  For this year, mushroom tappets still remain disallowed in all cases except for the Y.  If a Y can be made to work with a hydraulic lifter while retaining the mushroom tappet design , then it will be legal for this years competition.  The 2010 rules are simply a rewrite of last years rules and the people writing the rules just do not realize that the Y did not come from the factory (for the mainstream engines anyhow) with hydraulic lifters so the rules exception for the Y concerning mushroom tappets is still there.  I don’t have a problem with this as rules are rules.  Was just glad that a Y was able to compete last year and show that they will hold together at 7400-7500 rpms while making respectable power numbers on pump gas and using cast iron oem heads.  While there were two Ford 427 SOHC engines at the competition last year, you’ll likely not see them this year for the same hydraulic lifter rule restriction.  That’s another engine that came from the factory with solid lifters only without the immediate capability for hydraulic lifters to be installed.

 

Here are a couple of pictures of a mushroom tappet hydraulic lifter.

 

Regarding a MEL (Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln) engine entry, I have considered one in the past for the EMC competiton and last year would have been the year to have entered it although the 3000-7000 rpm test range was not as favorable for this family of engines as the 2500-6500 rpm range that’s back in effect for this year.  Unfortunately there’s not a decent single four intake available for the MEL engine which keeps the MEL engine from being a serious player in this kind of competition in a single four barrel carb only format but the oem iron heads are more than up to the task.  Last years rules did allow multiple carburetion and the 1958 3X2 Super Marauder intake is very likely the best ever carbureted intake manifold made for this family of engines when used with the newer generation Holley 2V carbs.  But multiple carburetion is not in the rules this year.  This years rules also limit the carburetor throat size which will make the smaller engines much more competitive than they’ve been in the past.  Said differently, large cubed carbed engines will not be as competitive this year and will be at a disadvantage due to the carburetor throat size limitation.  Besides there not being a good single four barrel intake manifold available for the MEL engines, these engines are just too large in cubic inches to be competitive in this years competition with the carburetor restriction that’s in place.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

Ted if you cant run the y this year are you going to build a mel to run

86 mustang 351c

lt250/500r hybrid 4'' over swinger scr porting v2 reeds Q-pipe

West virgina