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John Mummert (8/15/2012)
Intake manifold castings should be here in about 3 weeks.





Woohoo! I'm on the list for one, can't wait!! BigGrin

Brad
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Welcome Joe! While I do have head castings I have not been able to catch up with demand. Of course there are also other castings to machine.

Just finished a batch of valley covers, will start machining some aluminum timing covers tomorrow. Intake manifold castings should be here in about 3 weeks.

At the present time there are only dual plane single 4bbl intakes available for the Y-Block. There is a Minnesota effort to make a single plane but are those very difficult to make work on a Y-Block. Edelbrock's plans of redoing their 3-2 intake seem to be off again.

I have made some efforts on an unusual 2-4 intake but that is a future project.

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The new heads have been available for a year or so. There is a waiting list so you need to contact John Mummert at www.ford-y-blocks.com He is the one having them done. He also has single 4 manifolds, the earlier Blue Thunder and an improved of his own. John's intake does not have the heat passage under the carb. He is definately the "go to" guy for these parts. The heads show a 50hp gain on the dyno out of the box! So if its horsepower you want it seems to be the way to go. Have you seen the 500hp article on these forums? Ted Eaton seems to have found the right combination for a streetable 500hp Y-Block! Chuck

Almost forgot, where are you located? It helps to put city/state in your tag line.

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New member, but been visiting the site for several years.  New question about heads being available.  Are there new heads being poured, and when will they be ready?  Is there an intake manifold available?  Do you have plans on a Victor style intake manifold or an 8V intake?  6V?  I have been impressed with the new aluminum heads and intakes, and would like to purchase a set for myself.  Thanks.

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Ted, I 'm not sure how many of the 'bird guy drive the car, but I'm one of them. I've been on the wait list for a a couple months now, and hopefully I'm in line for a set of the now available castings when John gets them out. I really appreciate all the work you've done, especially showing the bird headers, as that's tough info for the rest of us to come by. The heads are going on with new headers and a larger exhaust and probably a throttle body injection in place of the carb and the blower. The car will go on a chassis dyno during that, and hopefully I'll have some closed up numbers to offer. That will give me a printout of the torque, hp and fuel curves. I think we're also going to be able to set the ign. advance through the computer. Not as good without a baseline, but might tell you a little more that it will the rest of us.

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morgus (2/16/2011)
so here is what we have....the guys in the t-bird clubs don't want anything to do with 'not original' stuff.....that 'takes out' a bunch of sales.....the old guys with y-blocks don't seem to have $2000+ laying around for these heads either.......who does this leave??? rich guys with 55 fords? not too many of them around, i'll bet..... ......so who is left?? i can't see a whole bunch of drag racers popping out of the bushes...(am i wrong??) this was a great idea in 1995--maybe with the country in a kind of 'no money-out of work' thing going on now...this is hurting sales.....yes? no? somebody out there (john mummert?)...text me back and straighten me out on this......later ed

From my perspective, the Thunderbird show crowd segment of the market is a relatively small percentage of those looking for Y-Block parts that will actually upgrade a Y engine.  That is their prerogative and I’m fine with the reasoning behind it.  On the flip side, there’s a much larger number of early Thunderbird owners who drive their cars and this group definitely wants to keep a Y under the hood if it will make some power numbers that are in line with a SBF or other engine swap.  To this end, the aluminum heads have got some TBird engine swaps putting Y’s back under the hoods simply for the nostalgia of having the original engine back in the car.  And for those who try to maintain some resemblance of originality, they are painting both the aluminum heads and aluminum intakes.  And let’s not overlook the F100 crowd.  That is the sleeper group for buying up Y parts as those pickups are out there in abundance and still priced where you can actually buy one. This is where I see many of the aluminum heads ultimately ending up.  It’s the F100 show group that’s going so far as to chrome the heads just for that additional amount of ‘one up ya’ which makes aluminum heads a natural for that group.

 

Requests for the aluminum heads on my end as an engine builder is strong.  Those requests are easily outweighing the production capability at this point in time so there’s obviously a waiting period for the heads right now.  The aluminum heads are no different than those for other engines in that if they are available, there will be a market for them.  There’s even an aluminum head available for the Ford 200 six now and that didn’t happen because there was no market for them.  What I see on the Y aluminum heads is once the intial demand is filled for engines that are currently being built with these heads in mind, there will be head sales to those wanting the make sure they have a set on the shelf for a future project.  It will be these heads that will be showing up for sale long after the heads are no longer being produced.  This is exactly what’s been occurring with the highly touted Ardun heads for the flathead Ford V8.

 

The aluminum heads have definitely raised the performance bar to the next level.  Although stout performance could be obtained on the oem heads with the addition of power adders, the horsepower potential with the normally aspirated engines with iron heads had pretty much peaked and leveled off.  The aluminum heads have changed all that by leaps and bounds.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)


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Thanks Gary,

If John has done his work right with these heads, and I'm sure he has, they will sell themselves.

cheers Warren Adams

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The aluminum heads worked great on my street tbird from a smooth takeoff from a traffic light to an amazing amount of power when passing another vehicle in a normal????? sort a way Ha! Ha! As I was saying earlier as John just put it there's more than enough buyers that's willing to put more real useable power in these cars with these aluminum heads with just a little more money as to trying to do the same thing Iron heads. If you want to paint these heads ford red they will look original to the classic tbird or classic car, and you will have to look very close to try and distinguish the difference because there THAT good. Way to go John!!!! and I'm waiting for my other set. So too answer your question Grizzly they worked excellent on the street with no problems..

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morgus (2/16/2011)
who does this leave??? rich guys with 55 fords? not too many of them around, i'll bet...

There are also some young single guys with no wives or kids to take all of the cash. Wink

The aluminum heads really are a no brainer if doing a performance build.  You can easily have just as much in a set of iron heads for the same performance.  For that reason, I agree that I see no reason that a T-bird guy wanting to maintain the stock configuration would shell out the dough.  2 g's makes no sense when he can rework his current heads to achieve his goal for much less.

These heads really are for the guy who's going to take it above stock performance levels and when you compare them to other low demand engines, they really aren't that expensive.


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Seems to me that John's heads are priced reasonably when you consider what it has taken for him to get them in production.  If I am remembering correctly a street port job on a good set of 113's by John cost around $1250 when I sent my heads to him a couple of years ago.  If I needed another set of heads now I would definitely consider a set of the aluminum heads. 

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