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It's just a simple nylon strap with a plastic buckle, like what is on a life jacket. You could use something else similar, certainly safer. If you don't use the strap, at approx. 70 mph the hood will only rise up an inch or 2 (DON'T EVEN TRY THIS AS IT'S DANGEROUS AS HELL!) BUT, I used to do it when I was about 18 yrs old all the time, so that is my research, haha. Everyone knows you are invincible at that time in your life! So, what I learned is one could control or curb the rise of the hood with a cinch strap or two (better) in case of any kind of gust or crosswind. Like I said I'm not recommending it for you. But it does help.  Lovering the trailing edge of the hood would accomplish the same thing but obviously an irreversible solution. I strapped it from the hood release bar to the springs on the hood pins. I haven't done this in a while since the need hasn't arisen.










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How many times did motorists go out of their way to tell you that your hood was open?
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Florida_Phil (6/11/2022)
I learned that Tbirds have a 1" spacer behind the water pump that causes water flow issues at idle speeds.  I installed a Casco improved water pump with longer blades and this worked great. 


Phil,
Which gen. CASCO pump do you have? While speaking with Chris (Paragon) re: his improved spacer design, the subject of 1st gen. Casco riveted pump blade failures came up.  With my coolant drained & fan removed, I noticed a subtle tinkling sound when spinning the pump shaft (loose rivets?). According to Chris, when those blades finally do come off, they sometimes make a hole in the spacer, and result in sudden coolant loss. Current 3rd. gen. pumps have a solid impeller with deeper vanes, and they can upgrade your pump ($50), something I plan to do though I have to wonder how much life is left in the pump bearings after running their (nose-heavy) clutch fan setup for over 25K miles? (no discernible side play, but impeller/shaft DOES spin quite easily).

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If I recall correctly, Casco's $50 upgrade consists of adding the riveted vanes to your pump. They will not replace yours with the 1-piece cast vanes (I wish they did). I have one of their riveted pumps; although it's still intact (little use), I don't intend to use it when my engine is rebuilt. 
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55blacktie (9/3/2022)
If I recall correctly, Casco's $50 upgrade consists of adding the riveted vanes to your pump. They will not replace yours with the 1-piece cast vanes (I wish they did). I have one of their riveted pumps; although it's still intact (little use), I don't intend to use it when my engine is rebuilt. 


THANK YOU blacktie!
I misread their catalog blurb. It DOES say the upgrade is ‘2nd gen.’. I only assumed they would naturally use their latest impeller design (go figure).  Also, they charged me $60 (inflation?) to supposedly reserve an impeller (catalog stated ‘while supplies last’, so I also ‘assumed’ a 3rd gen. production/delivery problem. Rather deceptive on their part, creeping senility on my part).
I will likely apply the $60 toward a new pump, or maybe they will just send me a 3rd gen. impeller, if they have them stocked separately, and it will merely press-on (?) whatever pump shaft I want (I have an alum. pump on my spare motor).

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It's highly unlikely that Casco will send the cast impeller to you, but they will sell the latest generation pump/w cast impeller. Expect to pay about $30 for shipping. You can get the same pump from Concours, and they are having a 10% off Labor Day Sale through the 9th. 
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I would like to get the Summit 302 water pump pulley kit but hard to tell which one it is.
Appreciate a part number.
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Only one way to find out - call them about it.

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If I recall correctly, Casco's $50 upgrade consists of adding the riveted vanes to your pump. They will not replace yours with the 1-piece cast vanes (I wish they did). I have one of their riveted pumps; although it's still intact (little use), I don't intend to use it when my engine is rebuilt. 


THANK YOU blacktie!
I misread their catalog blurb. It DOES say the upgrade is ‘2nd gen.’. I only assumed they would naturally use their latest impeller design (go figure).  Also, they charged me $60 (inflation?) to supposedly reserve an impeller (catalog stated ‘while supplies last’, so I also ‘assumed’ a 3rd gen. production/delivery problem. Rather deceptive on their part, creeping senility on my part).
I will likely apply the $60 toward a new pump, or maybe they will just send me a 3rd gen. impeller, if they have them stocked separately, and it will merely press-on (?) whatever pump shaft I want (I have an alum. pump on my spare motor).




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55blacktie (9/4/2022)
It's highly unlikely that Casco will send the cast impeller to you, but they will sell the latest generation pump/w cast impeller. Expect to pay about $30 for shipping. You can get the same pump from Concours, and they are having a 10% off Labor Day Sale through the 9th. 


Thanks again blacktie,
I fleshed out the 10%-off order and got free shipping (over $30) also.  Fresh pump bearings for now, and likely can salvage the impeller later on.  Will cancel the Casco order.

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Daniel, did the free shipping include the pump? They told me it's considered a heavy/bulky item for which free shipping doesn't apply. Of course, the cost would be included in the $300+ for free shipping for your other items. 

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