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Tremec T-5 install in Thunderbird

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Is that a 750 cfm Summit carburetor?
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The AC was installed by the previous owner, and the belt was so far out of alignment it sheared the water pump impeller.  When I bought the car, that was the issue at hand, and making so much noise that the owner dropped the price in half.  A water pump change, adding some shims, moving the alternator around a bit, and getting the belt in proper alignment, adding a fan spacer, and it started and ran nearly perfect.  The only problem was someone had installed a two barrel intake and carb with the loadmatic distributor it was a real "slow poke".  The AC actually works very well, now.  The lady who was the previous owner had receipts for thousands of dollars of work on the car from several years.  Sad to say she was "taken advantage of" is an understatement.  Getting everything cleaned, painted and installed on the 345 Y and aligned properly was one of the most difficult parts of the installation.  The two part fan shroud really makes working on the accessories a lot easier than most cars, though.    Joe-JDC

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Nice work - well worth all the effort. Couldn't help noticing the very clean compressor installation. Did you custom fab the A/C hoses?

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Getting close to start up and drive time.  It is not quite as easy to do this now that I am nearing my 76th birthday as it was just a few years ago.  The enjoyment is in the day to day work and seeing it all coming together.   Little setbacks like shortening a driveshaft after spending $414.00 for the first one, speedometer cable ends, brass fittings for oil gage sending unit, transmission mounts, engine steady mount spacer kit, have made this take nearly double the time I expected.  Now, where is that coil wire?  Joe-JDChttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/d00430e2-6430-4dcc-97c9-0f6e.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/84bc292a-7729-41fc-b042-9ff1.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/6d8267e1-acf5-4335-8588-075f.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/5a52e723-4a5d-4c96-8cdb-e61f.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/519e4852-af82-46a0-bdab-ca61.jpg

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Some follow up information on this installation.  The '64-'66 Mustang V8 speedometer cable will work, albeit too long at 64 inches.  The original speedometer cable was 47 inches, but needs about 5 inches extra to allow for bend into the transmission without too much of a bend.  A 52" speedometer cable would be perfect with the same Ford Mustanghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/627fb893-8bb1-47a3-9450-59f4.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/f9055fa7-430c-4b95-a78a-669d.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/80a77c72-e8d5-4e28-b44a-1b02.jpg ends.  Also, the drive shaft for the original Ford differential needs to be 31inches center to center instead of the 32 1/4" in Mummert's instruction sheet.  He must have been using a Ford 9" read end for his build, but did not say that in the instructions sheet.  The C-4 transmission mount must be used and the holes drilled in the Thunderbird transmission cross member.  The cross member does need to be lowered in the X frame and it will not be level to the ground.   
I am waiting on the driveshaft to be shortened.  I am installing Dynamat sound deadner and heat reflector under the new carpet.  I ordered the carpet for column shift so that I could cut the shifter hole where it needed to be with this combination of shifter placement.  Joe-JDC

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I've tried to avoid making any mods that can't be undone, but holes had been drilled into the frame to accommodate the front mounts for Traction Master bars while the 55 Tbird was still in my dad's possession. He was no hot-rodder. I think the bars were installed to limit lateral movement of the rear axle, so the KH wire-wheel knockoffs wouldn't rub the skirts. I decided against installing an AOD because I did not want to notch the frame for clearance. Although I would like overdrive, my transmission builder said that the C4 is a better transmission. I also think the AOD would be more difficult to install. My point being drilling one more hole to accommodate the speedometer cable seems like the logical thing to do. 

Yes, I'm sure the 90-degree drive adapter is tight. I found that out while attempting to disconnect the 55 cable. Even with the exhaust system removed, I haven't found the right tool in my toolbox that will squeeze in there to remove the cable. It might have to remain attached and come out with the transmission (or cut it).  Gil Baumgartner (CTCI Gil's Garage) recommends attaching the cable to the transmission before the transmission is installed for that reason. 

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Blacktie -sitting down?  275 for the angle drive.  Drilling a hole is a lot cheaper

Thinking about this, if I remember correctly, it was a bit of a tight fit to get the angle drive in place


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Thanks, Paul. I would PM/email, but it hasn't worked in the past. 


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Blacktie - I think the supplier was Speedometer Service Co.  in Wisconsin (414-432-4636.)  Don't remember what I paid for it, but certainly not cheaper than drilling a hole. Was simple to install though. Will try to find the invoice for it tomorrow.
I ordered a 1 to 1 ratio, you can get different ratios to correct a speedo.  I corrected my speedo by changing the driven gear.

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Paul, can you provide more  information for the aftermarket angle drive, including source, that you used for your C4 conversion? Would it have been simpler/cheaper to have drilled a hole in the frame for the 57 cable? 

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dbird, I would like to see how you routed the Falcon cable to the C4 when/if convenient. I've been told that the 57 Tbirds have a hole in the frame for the speedometer cable. I'm just wondering why there's a hole, if it's not needed. 

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