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I have built and raced, Fox Mustangs since 1986, with WC T-5Z transmissions, I have a '86 GT with 383W stroker/5 speed, and just sold my 91 LX a couple of months ago, and gave my youngest son my '89 GT with 23K miles on it.  I have lots of experience with the T-5 transmissions, and lots of plastic gears for the speedometer cable.  The LX had 4.10 gears, my '86 has 3.73 gears, and my '89 GT now has 3.73 gears and WC-Z.  This T-5 came out of the '89 GT.   All those transmissions had a speedometer cable adapter for the cable end that goes into the transmission.  It has different cable ends from your pictures.  I can get pictures tomorrow.  If a regular speedometer cable for a truck will work, then I will try to find one locally.  Joe-JDC

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I think there was a cable design change at some point in the '50s.

I didn't take a picture for reference, but what FORD DEARBORN shows looks like I remember.  '61 to ?? cables and gears seem to fit the T5 without any adapter needed.



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Both the speedometer cable design and gear at the transmission changed in 1957 and stayed that way for at least three decades.  As mentioned by Ford Dearborn, the gears are available with the helix being either left or right.  When I upgraded the T85 in my ’55 Customline, I simply purchased a speedometer cable for a ’57 Ford with overdrive and it bolted right in my ’55.  I did have to also use a ’57 & up speedo gear and pick the one with the right tooth count that matched my tire size and gear ratio to get the speedometer to read close to correct.

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This is what I am dealing with.  The '55 Thunderbird adapter vs the T-5.  I am going to try to find a newer Ford speedometer cable and check the ends to see if they are compatible with the speedometer housing, and the T-5.  I have plenty of plastic gears for the transmission end of the cable.  Joe-JDChttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b7e851c6-54e7-4fa3-bfb0-6e80.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/0036ae02-c152-4e71-907b-3d38.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/f5692e0e-6119-49f2-835c-a4f1.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ddde312b-eb9c-4463-9c76-2cff.jpg

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After checking several sources, it looks like I need the '57 Thunderbird with automatic transmission speedometer cable. T-17260B.  The A and C suffix are for the OD transmission and look similar to the stock '55 I have.  The B cable is similar to all Mustangs with toploader transmissions, and I have ordered two, one 68" and one 76" length.  If the short one doesn't work in the Tbird, it will fit my Shelby.  win/win
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Glad you have it figured out. The one with the blue finish should fit a T5. That's a pulse generator, no?

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If it's any help, I bought the same cable for putting a C4 transmission in my 55 Tbird.
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By the way, another 55 Tbird owner, who did a C4 swap said that he modified the 90-degree drive adapter to accommodate the 57 cable; otherwise, he said it's necessary to drill/cut a hole in the frame to accommodate the cable. I haven't gotten that far with my conversion, but I'll go back and read his email (if I still have it), if it helps.
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I will probably drill a hole to route the cable through the frame.  I had to lower the transmission crossmember and angle it 5* for it to mount to the transmission in a level position.  The instructions mention 5*, but it does not specify where or what those 5* are measured against.  I guess they suppose the end user should be smart enough to figure it out for themselves.  This '55 Thunderbird has been so mistreated over the years that I am just trying to get it fun to drive and not worry about originality or perfection.  Joe-JDChttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/5541c3cb-b7d6-4a0b-9071-8a6c.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/1a234e64-a594-40fa-8dea-74b9.jpg

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Joe, here is contact info. for someone who has been there and done that:

John Rollison
Pro Tech Performance
Waldorf, MD
(301) 638-2109

Sorry, no email address/website


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