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2019 Engine Masters Challenge getting close.

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good luck ted looking forward to read about it
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Doug T (10/7/2019)
 
EngineMasters Rule?

9319-HEADERS: Passenger car chassis style headers required. Header must be manufactured and cataloged to fit a specific passenger car application OEM equipped with the engine type claimed. Manufacturer’s part number must be stamped into the header (Editorial comment "better selection for scrubs"?)

Hi Ted,
Is this the only header rule?  If so where did the Stude guys come up a set of headers?

As with any EMC rules, exceptions could be asked for and if reasonable, granted.  The Studebaker headers was one of those exceptions.  Likewise the intake manifold on the Studebaker engine was special and allowed an exception.
 
Here’s a picture of the Studebaker engine on the dyno.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/130610fc-1d46-4258-9438-1056.jpg 




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Lot of hot rods ran  Stude engines back in the day, Maybe for them.



Y's guys rule!
Looking for McCullouch VS57 brackets and parts. Also looking for 28 Chrysler series 72 parts. And early Hemi parts.

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EngineMasters Rule?

9319-HEADERS: Passenger car chassis style headers required. Header must be manufactured and cataloged to fit a specific passenger car application OEM equipped with the engine type claimed. Manufacturer’s part number must be stamped into the header (Editorial comment "better selection for scrubs"?)

Hi Ted,
Is this the only header rule?  If so where did the Stude guys come up a set of headers?



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charliemccraney (10/3/2019)
One thing I like is that, in the videos, the host makes it sound as if the other competitors, at least, take the Y seriously now.  Ted, has the perception changed since the very first appearance at Engine Masters?  I would not be surprised at all if people wondered who would waste time with a Y at the first competition it was in..

At the Engine Masters Challenge, the Y is taken seriously.  This year, a 289 Ford showed up and really put up some good numbers.  That small block Ford at 296 cubic inches was only seven points from the first place finisher (400 cubic inches) which means just a few degrees in water temperature on either engine would have done a flip flop on who the winner would have been.



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it is pretty cool  to see  that there are 3 fords in the top 6 considering the way the rules are written to give scruby an advantage! 

the 1968 cut off date plays right into scrubys hand!  This keeps the  big port engine  from ford out of the  Competition.  
For a 289 to out score the  scrubys in this is great!  
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One thing I like is that, in the videos, the host makes it sound as if the other competitors, at least, take the Y seriously now.  Ted, has the perception changed since the very first appearance at Engine Masters?  I would not be surprised at all if people wondered who would waste time with a Y at the first competition it was in..


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The 303" Y dropped to sixth place during the final day of  running for the 'Early Iron' engine class.  Jon Kaase was favored to win overall but his engine was also down on power at this competition and he ultimately ended up in third place.  His placing third dropped the 303" Y to fifth place.  There were four SBC engines running Wednesday and three of those trailed the Y in points but one of them did manage to squeak by the Y which put the Y in sixth place.  As of today (Thursday), the final scores and placement of the engines are pretty much fixed.  The winning engine will be torn down today and assuming all is good with that, the remaining engines will not be required to be disassembled or torn down.

The placement of the top six engines are as follows:
390 Ford - Blair Patrick
289 Ford - Geoff and John Mummert
427 BBC - Jon Kaase
396 BBC - HInkel
327 SBC - Adney Brown
292 Ford - Ted Eaton and Joe Craine

While teardown takes place for the Early Iron class today, the LS engines will be running in their own class.  The Banquet will be later tonight.  Joe and I will be heading back to Texas early Friday morning.


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From the most recent video on Facebook, the Y did drop to 5th.  That's ahead of an FE, 1 BB Ford and 2 SB Ch evy, as well as a Pontiac and Studebaker.  There is only 1 more score to come if there are only 4 engines today, as there have been the past 2 days, which places the Y in the top 50%.  That's a great performance!


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The 1/2" diameter lifter bores on the Y pretty much keep roller camshafts from being used in this family of engines.  That's a real disadvantage at this years EMC.  Even the Studebaker engine had a roller camshaft in it.  The Studebaker engines have a 0.904" lifter bore so the Mopar roller lifters can work there.  The rest of the engines are pretty much mainstream with catalogue roller cams available for them.

The Y is still in fourth place but look for it to fall to fifth when the Jon Kaase BBC comes up later this morning.  In fact, Jon is looking to be the favorite right for moving into first place.

The 'Eaton Balancing / Joe Craine Porting' 303" Y-Block did not make the same power numbers here at the competition that it was making at the shop.  It's only 24 HP and 24 TQ down but that cost us over 150 points in the scoring.  The engine was making in excess of 450 HP at the shop but is down to 430 HP here in Ohio.

All for now.  Potentially another update in a day or so.


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