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Does anyone have the spacer that goes in front of the oil slinger on the crankshaft ... or know where to buy one
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I've never seen a spacer on any Y block I've worked on. FE's have them
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Lawrence Petty (8/27/2019)
Does anyone have the spacer that goes in front of the oil slinger on the crankshaft ... or know where to buy one

If You are going by the Shop Manual I believe its an Error. The Picture shows what  looks like a Spacer and Mentions One in the Text but there is no Picture of the Oil Slinger in the Illustration. I think that "Spacer" shown in the Picture was supposed to be the Oil Slinger. The Snout of the Harmonic Balancer holds the Slinger in Place against the Cam Gear. The Camshaft has a Spacer and I think the 2 got mixed up with Crankshaft.

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The spacer may be for the 1954 Ford with the 239 without power steering. Once in a while I see these appear on Ebay.

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Drawing for Y-Block Crankshaft Assembly 1955 - 1962 shows oil slinger #6310 and spacer #6700 ... then harmonic balance.  When I pull oil pan and look back at front end of crank assembly it appears oil slinger up against timing cover - would think a spacer would take care of this.  Crank turns OK when I take harmonic balance off and then turn it with bolt/washer.  Some say oil slinger takes place of spacer, but that's not what the drawing shows and others just a spacer.  Anybody have any ideas, or even what the thickness of the spacer is suppose to be ... would like to finish this assembly correctly.  HELP
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6700 is the Timing Cover Seal. 6310 is the Oil Slinger. Keeps Oil off the Seal to better prevent Leaks. Sometimes the Slinger gets missed when re-assembling Engine. It was missing on mine.http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/1aece79d-c6d8-4b87-b73b-5030.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/79525729-9e3a-4a40-880a-f3ce.jpgI don't see a Spacer listed for Y Block.

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I think Mark answers the question.

A spacer would either not move the slinger at all or move it closer to the timing cover, not away.  It would also change the position of the pulley, causing problems with belt alignment.


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Lawrence Petty (8/28/2019)
Drawing for Y-Block Crankshaft Assembly 1955 - 1962 shows oil slinger #6310 and spacer #6700 ... then harmonic balance.  When I pull oil pan and look back at front end of crank assembly it appears oil slinger up against timing cover - would think a spacer would take care of this.  Crank turns OK when I take harmonic balance off and then turn it with bolt/washer.  Some say oil slinger takes place of spacer, but that's not what the drawing shows and others just a spacer.  Anybody have any ideas, or even what the thickness of the spacer is suppose to be ... would like to finish this assembly correctly.  HELP

It may look look the Slinger is against the Timing Cover when Damper is installed but there is room between the Slinger and Cover. Don't need much Clearance but there is enough. Unless the Slinger is Bent. Try assembling with Pan off and Damper installed. Turn it over by Hand.

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The SPACER you are wondering about (was separate on 1954 EBU 239CI) was incorporated into the harmonic balancer assy for 1955/ production.

If for some strange reason the engine has an early 239CI balancer, GOOGLE B4AZ 6359-A for the Service Replacement.

The spacer is part of the balancer. Measure it out to be sure of what you have.

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The balancer will have the spacer built in. When the balancer is installed, the slinger will be pressed tightly against the crank driven gear (6306). See where the incorporated spacer in the below photo shows wear from the front seal?

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ef0ef735-09ca-455d-8df9-7d14.jpg


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That drawing is misleading and in one place states its a spacer, not a seal.  Pan off, slinger installed and crank turns without the balancer.  Put on balancer and cannot turn crank even if I get it to torqued to specs.  Appears to be 3-7/64" length on crank end to slinger and 3-21/64" on inside of harmonic balancer ... thats 7/32" difference, so maybe harmonic balancer is getting torqued too tight against crankshaft sprocket gear.  Still puzzled on what to do to get crank to turn with harmonic balancer installed to torque specs.


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