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Thermostat bypass on FE engines

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I apologize for straying from the Y block but I have a question regarding the FE water pump and bypass system. I have read past posts here that some of you place a restrictor in the Y-block bypass hose. I recall it is 3/16".  This modification reduces the heated water that just goes back into the block and bypasses being cooled by the radiator. This makes sense to me.

OK, on to my FE. I will need to replace the water pump in my 67 F250 with a 352. Since the bypass system is so similar to the Y I was thinking to do the same modification. With pump removed now would be the perfect time. I was wondering if any of you have done this or do you think it is a good or bad idea Thank you - Bob



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I tried it and then pulled it out. Didn't find it did much. If You want to see improvement in Cooling ability 3 things work. Aluminum Rad which are now cheaper than ever on Ebay because of Competition. Multi blade Fan moves more air or electric add on Pusher Fan.if u keep your existing Fan.  Hi Flow Thermostat. I did all three on mine and Temp Gauge never goes more than a little past halfway. Even Idling. I used a 6 Blade conventional Fan Blade with no Add on.

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This modification reduces the heated water that just goes back into the block and bypasses being cooled by the radiator.


The purpose of the By-Pass feature is to have continuous coolant flow even with the thermostat completely closed. It is a safety feature.

The only reason I can think of modifying the flow rate is you have an engine that over-cools,



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I feel its a fix if you are having problems. I was with a Y and had to do everything including a smaller water pump pulley to fix it. I also put on a fan shroud which did help but not enough. The pulley was the biggest factor especially at idle. Many disagree but these engines never heated up in the 50-60's when new (and we had them) so to me it's caused by the gasoline of today especially the "summer blend" SoCal gets. I use a 1/8" hole in the plug. Good Luck

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Olcarmark, Thanks for the input on the restrictor. Was that on you Fairlane or an FE application? I raised the question because my water pump is leaking and I had been running my system with cap on loose because the radiator was leaking. I have a new 3 row champion aluminum radiator and water pump going in. Along with new hoses, belts, high flow thermostat and heater control valve. Doing some much needed maintenance. After this I will assess a different fan. Although my radiator was leaking it did seem to cool just fine for my use of the truck at this time. I am thinking to add AC in the future so just want to have the basics done

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I wouldn't change anything until I know how it does with everything working as originally intended first.


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KUL, I was curious on why the bypass was 5/8. I guess to allow decent flow with a stuck thermostat.
DLR, My F250 does not overheat but it is rarely loaded. I want to get it prepared for AC and the ability to tow a car trailer on occasion.
I am with you on the original 55/56 Ford cooling.  Back in the 70's I had driven my 56 292 Club Sedan across country twice in the summer, all over SoCal and the Sierras and never had an overheating issue. I did install what was called a desert cooler 4 row radiator and car was  otherwise stock

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Charlie, I am thinking maybe put it together as factory built since it does not over heat even with my old leaking and corroded radiator.

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Bobwanna (8/17/2019)
Olcarmark, Thanks for the input on the restrictor. Was that on you Fairlane or an FE application? I raised the question because my water pump is leaking and I had been running my system with cap on loose because the radiator was leaking. I have a new 3 row champion aluminum radiator and water pump going in. Along with new hoses, belts, high flow thermostat and heater control valve. Doing some much needed maintenance. After this I will assess a different fan. Although my radiator was leaking it did seem to cool just fine for my use of the truck at this time. I am thinking to add AC in the future so just want to have the basics done

That was on my Y block. As far as Bypass Restrictor: If the Engineers at Ford thought a smaller Bypass would help Cooling they could have easily put it into Production. I have a Thermostat Housing from a '54 that has a 1/2" Bypass Tube instead of the "55+ which was 5/8". Why was it increased in Size after 1954? Wonder why?

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KUL, I was curious on why the bypass was 5/8. I guess to allow decent flow with a stuck thermostat.
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I guess Engineering figured the needed size. The FE is also 5/8".

It is not there to allow for a stuck closed thermostat but allows flow when the thermostat is closed. Would be a lot of pressure and coolant cavitation beating on the thermostat without it.

As for the 54 239CI, I would assume the smaller by-pass did not allow enough flow or the CLV designed engines required more flow.



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