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Tips on Buying an Engine to rebuild.

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I am looking for a 292 or 312 to rebuild this coming Winter. Any Tips on what to look for or look out for besides not being stuck? I know its kind of a Crap Shoot buying something that can't be heard running. Any suggestions appreciated. Before anyone offers Me One I am in Canada. Looking for One locally.

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I have bought a number of used engines over the years.  Here's my two cents.  Try to find an engine out of a 1957 4 door or station wagon.  All 57 YBlocks came with the good heads and rockers, distributor and exhaust manifolds.  1957 272s are great engines to buy.  They are more common, normally weren't hot rodded and you can bore them to 292 size. I have the original 292 block in my TBird.  The block is all that is left original. My original engine had been rebuilt so many times it was junk.  I bored my 292 .060 without any issues.  Still, it needed align boring and the decks squared. Whatever YBlock you buy, you will most likely have to do the same. Obviously, the less miles on the engine the better. Unfortunately, you can't tell the actual miles or how it was maintained from the outside.

I never buy someone else's rebuilt motor or any engine that has been hot rodded.  What you want is a pure virgin.  If it still has the 2 barrel carb and manifold, all the better.  My motor cost me about $1,500 for the machine work alone. I probably have about $5,000 US in it total counting the 4V intake manifold, holley carb, 57 distributor and exhaust manifolds.  Correct assembly is important, especially in the area around the rear seal. 
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I have bought a number of used engines over the years.  Here's my two cents.  Try to find an engine out of a 1957 4 door or station wagon.  All 57 YBlocks came with the good heads and rockers, distributor and exhaust manifolds.  1957 272s are great engines to buy.  They are more common, normally weren't hot rodded and you can bore them to 292 size. I have the original 292 block in my TBird.  The block is all that is left original. My original engine had been rebuilt so many times it was junk.  I bored my 292 .060 without any issues.  Still, it needed align boring and the decks squared. Whatever YBlock you buy, you will most likely have to do the same. Obviously, the less miles on the engine the better. Unfortunately, you can't tell the actual miles or how it was maintained from the outside.

I never buy someone else's rebuilt motor or any engine that has been hot rodded.  What you want is a pure virgin.  If it still has the 2 barrel carb and manifold, all the better.  My motor cost me about $1,500 for the machine work alone. I probably have about $5,000 US in it total counting the 4V intake manifold, holley carb, 57 distributor and exhaust manifolds.  Correct assembly is important, especially in the area around the rear seal. 

What is the Significance of 57 Wagon or 4 Door?

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There is no physical difference in the engines.  There is less chance of someone messing with an engine out of a station wagon or a four door. When I buy a used engine, I want the last person who touched it to be the person who assembled it at the factory. One way you can tell if a '57 YBlock bottom end is virgin is if it still has the nut keepers on the rod bolts.  They are normally the first thing to go.
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OK .Makes sense.

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1957 272 and 292 engines are not hard to find.  I know of two within a few miles of my home in Central Florida.  There is a guy named Randy in Wisconsin that has acres of old 57 Fords.  I bought a car from him about ten years ago.  Unfortunately, I lost his number.  312s are getting rare and pricey.  I've had all three.  To be honest, I don't see much advantage to a 312 unless you are going to race.  My .060 over 292 runs just fine with me.
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Phil don't You know every "Y" Block is a 312? Everybody I talk to says theirs is a 312.    You and I have the only 292's.   LOL!!!

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where in canada,i have a reman short block  for 1400 cn. it includes a cam ,lifters and roller chain
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a auto wrecker in casagrandy Told me do not buy a core from southern states that don't use  antifreeze,as raw water is bad for cavitation of cylinder walls,as well overheating another concern esp. for heads. industrial cores are good especially out west where ford supplied new castings to rebuilders after no market in new vehicles
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I would never buy a marine engine for this reason.  Few people in the South used antifreeze back in the fifties.  I didn't even know what it was until I bought my first new car in 1967 and it had green water in the radiator.  I have never seen a passenger car engine with rust so bad it couldn't be used.   I suppose it's possible.  What you will see are engines with deep sludge in the valley and pan.  Due to chemical restrictions, "Hot Tanking" isn't what it once was.  My machinist bead blasted my motor.  I wouldn't do this on my own.  He knew what he was doing.


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