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What are the differences between the TBird 55/56 front brake shoes and the TBird 57 brake shoes.  I see listing this way.  Size?  I don
t have any reference to see if the size of the 57 shoes are different.  I know 56's are 2 1/4 x 11

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According to my 57 shop manual they are 11", but they list the primary shoe as 2" and secondary as 2 1/2". That seems strange to me but I'm not a Bird expert.
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Paul, the 55/56 Tbird used the Ford Station Wagon brakes front and rear. The 57 Tbird used the Ford 9 inch rear end rather
than the Dana 44, used on the 55/56 Tbird. Start there Pete
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Pete thanks - but the front's are the ones that show a difference.

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According to my 57 shop manual they are 11", but they list the primary shoe as 2" and secondary as 2 1/2". That seems strange to me but I'm not a Bird expert.




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Thanks Jim - I know it sounds funny, but maybe that's the difference.  The primary shoe on the 56 shows 1 3/4 (secondary 2 1/4).  Most sets today have the 2 1/4 for both primary and secondary based on the two sets that I have here

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According to my 57 shop manual they are 11", but they list the primary shoe as 2" and secondary as 2 1/2". That seems strange to me but I'm not a Bird expert.




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Paul, OK look up front brakes 1955/56 Ford Station Wagon/Courier on any parts website. A word of caution about turning the Drums.
I don`t know just when the MAX OVERSIZE was part of the Drum but .030 is a good LIMIT or distortion/warping can occur
when brakes are used and drums get HOT.   Pete 

Paul, if this is not the issue can you explain IN A DIFFERENT way what the issue is?
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I'm only guessing but the 57 is probably heavier then the 55-56 hence the wider shoes?
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Paul,
From the '57 TBird Engineering and Specifications Manual from CTCI the front secondary lining is 11" x 2 1/2" and the
front primary is 11" x  2".
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From the 1949 to 1959 Ford Parts Manual  front brake shoe and lining S/D, S/W   B6A  2001 - B
My magic decoder reads this as S = Tbird   W  = Station Wagon  D = Courier delivery    
2-AF 2018 -Y Primary
2-AF 2019 -U Secondary
You got a computer, get to work.  Pete
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Seems to be a lot of different answers here  but I appreciate everyone's contribution.    Some say 2 1/4, some 2 1/2 on the 57. secondary.  I don't have  57 (ONLY A 56) shop manual so that is why I posed the question.  I have a set of brakes shoes for an early TBird and both primary and secondary shoes are 2 1/4 (primary linings a little shorter as usual) that I want to sell and don't want to misrepresent them.

As far as the different brake setup, Kultulz, my 56 has no such items and are just like any later Ford.  I have changed them twice so I know whats under the drum.  If I remember correctly, I bought the shoes from a Tbird parts supplier

Sandbird - this is different than what the shop manual says per RancheroJim but may be correct as CASCO's listing for drums show the 57 as different

I thought that my question was clear enough - what is the difference between 55/56 and 57 front brake shoes


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