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I THINK I can locate a set of the '55 heads you asked for originally, but I'm not sure I can accomplish it before Winter. 

The thing with used heads this old can be pitting on the deck surface IF they've been in a vehicle sitting outdoors with normal temperature changes. Condensation on the heads machined metal surfaces seems to cause the forming of what I term pock marks. These pock marks or mini pits form on the head flat deck surfaces over the pistons and in the combustion chambers.  The 'pits' can be a source for pre-ignition in the combustion chamber.  I don't like to use heads afflicted with those 'pits' in engine rebuilds.


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John's 331 stroker kit is on the menu, thinking 3.81" - 3.83" bore, 312 - 317 ci. 350 hp, pump gas. I have to run.

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Are you thinking just boring a 292 OR are you considering putting a 312 crank in to the 292 also?

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Thanks for sharing your knowledge Charlie!

I am keeping together the parts for a concourse '55 bird, that's where the ECK will end up, if that happens. I drove this bird 32 years ago and decided I was going to do a body off resto after I dinged it up. Well here I am planning to build an engine for the street first. I just got word that that the B9AE I hoped to build will not clean up where we want it. I will haul a virgin C1TE to the shop next week for sonic test. I am learning from every bit of information that you guys share. The part where you mentioned the aftermarket skirted pistons was valuable info. All of the information that you had posted is relevant and informative.

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Brent.  Apologies for pulling that down. I totally missed what you had posted regarding the chart from John Mummert and had gone off in the weeds thinking you were misunderstanding some information on the Mummert chart I had previously posted.

Let's go at this a bit differently.

What are you looking to put together to power your '55 'Bird?  Are you trying to go with a rebuilt stock engine or something warmed over?  Are you going to go with the Merc automatic transmission or standard transmission?  What did your 'Bird have originally?

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Charlie,

What happened to the valuable info you had posted? I had planned to study after the game is over.





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Thanks for the input!

RE: CR - John's chart confuses me. the 113 and ECZ-C show identical CR with 10cc domed pistons.
http://www.ford-y-block.com/forgpiststk.htm
the head chart @ ford-y-block.com/cylinderheadchart.htm shows 8.4 vs 8.8 CR
There is a lot to consider when concocting a recipe for hp.

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Brent.  Unless you are seeking to make your car as original as possible, I'd recommend using a set of ECZ-G or 5752-113 cylinder heads.  That said, the ECZ-C heads you have are decent in terms of combustion chamber size (compression ratio) and street performance (drive-ability).  Just sayin' . . .

This stuff is getting sooo old, that most people looking at your engine won't even know what it is, let alone whether the heads are the 'correct year' or 'original application'.  The fact that you've got the correct species of engine makes the car noteworthy.  Unless you go to a C.T.C.I. meet, so many 'Birds have had other engines stuffed in them whether they be Ford small blocks, FEs, or other makes. 

Compression ratio makes a lot of difference in stop-and-go driving and engine torque in accelerating to pass or speed-up on a highway entrance ramp.  In rebuilding these engines, most of us are using the newer composite gaskets which seal better and stay sealed, but their thickness reduces compression ratio by increasing the effective combustion chamber volume.  Remember, too, that the manufacturers' ADVERTISED compression ratios AND horsepower figures from back-in the-day were theoretical calculations not measured or verified by anyone.  w00t

IF you haven't seen it, click the link below to view John Mummert's info on y-block head specs.
http://www.ford-y-block.com/cylinderheadchart.htm

Food for thought . . .   Smile


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Hello Carl,

I'm in Brookings, OR  97415





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what is your location.  Carl


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