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Well done guys, very impressive no.'s.
Those head mods. are inspiring though.
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Royce:  THANKS for writing and sharing what you did behind the scenes to accomplish the results produced with your Turnpike Cruiser.  Kudos for ALL of your time, effort, and accomplishments.  In my book, you and Ted were the 'Davids' that met the 'Goliaths' at this year's EMC.  You both did FANTASTIC in my understanding of the results.  WHAT a SHOWING of TALENT and EXPERTISE!

Best Wishes!


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I'm more impressed with Royce and Ted's efforts than Kaase"s. They have maintained the spirit of their engines history, Kaase showed us how to build another Small Block scrub out of a Y. When is a Y block no longer a Y block? Very clever engineering, but so? How about a set of Four valve overhead cam heads on a Y? Is that still a Y block?

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I'm more impressed with Royce and Ted's efforts than Kaase"s. They have maintained the spirit of their engines history, Kaase showed us how to build another Small Block scrub out of a Y. When is a Y block no longer a Y block? Very clever engineering, but so? How about a set of Four valve overhead cam heads on a Y? Is that still a Y block?




AGREED !!!!!!!!

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For one thing, the Che vy has the same siamesed port layout as earlier engines, such as the Lincoln Y-Block.  The SBC was derived from earlier engines  and is not unique in that respect.
An sbc intake was fitted, in a similar fashion to 2 of the other engines because there simply was not an intake specific to the engine family that would do what the builder wanted.

Another thing to remember, is Kaase entered the competition to win, not to appease the diehard fans - and that is what he did.  I'm glad he did.  Having his name attached to a Y that won and produced, to the best of my knowledge, record amounts of power in naturally aspirated form, 584hp and 596ftlbs, is great.  That is just what is needed to have aftermarket companies wake up and start producing things.  There is certainly no guarantee it will happen, but every example that can get mainstream attention is a step in the right direction and demonstrates, undeniably that a Y is capable of serious power with proper support.

To answer the question When is a Y no longer a Y (or any engine is no longer what it was, for that matter).  My opinion is when that engine's major components are no longer genuine Ford (or che vy, Dodge, Packard, etc).  At that point it is a Ford based engine, but is no longer a Ford engine.  By that Definition, both Ted's and Kaase's engines are not true Y-Blocks.  Kaase's certainly deviates even farther.  About the only genuine Ford thing left in each is the block.  However, I do not have a problem with someone calling it by that name as long as the facts are not overstated.



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Some years ago weren't there cylinder heads from  Brazil, or Argentina, or somewhere else that had chambers and port layout similar to the newer 5 liter Ford engines?
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Yes, and those are genuine Ford parts, phase II Y-Block.



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I agree jon kaase went to far.  I would like to see a "Super Stock" class.  Stock bore and stroke.  No aluminum and only off the shelf parts.  Something the average guy could relate to and afford and apply to his own engine.

Also how about a class dedicated to inline, straight six engines.  Yblocks are becomming increasingly rare, inlines are everwhere and a dime a dozen.

   
John Mummert
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This conversation is one that we knew would happen eventually.  The engine is called a Y- block and the reference refers to the block. Cylinder heads take much time to develop and turn into a sellable parts.  
 We are already working on an all out race head with revised intake side.  I cannot give the farm away however.   Its NOT the typical cadillac, lincoln, scrubrolet  intake that most are familiar with. That is the easiest way to go that requires the least changes. Flow testing models like that show good gains. But we feel it would have the least room for growth especially with the way the rocker stands are laid out and the rockers are a peice we will hang on to.
 It has revised intake valve angle but still operates from a common shaft. And will take the stock y block valve cover and exhaust systems. Unlike an FE we feel the alum head exh. port to be capable of much more power. We have two version that we have been doing R&D work on and off with for the last year and a half.  Our goal is to be able to make 700hp eventually. We are still probably an easy year out.

 It not that surprising that Kaase did what he knew he could make work in the time that he had. Remember he hasn't spent the last 30 years of his life working on Y blocks.

 Please do not knock innovation.  Choose the parts that fit your application, and make you happy.  HAVING ENOUGH PERFORMANCE PARTS TO KEEP "EVERYONE" HAPPY WILL TAKE MUCH MORE HARD WORK. 





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Well said John.



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