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4 door ----to----> Convertible (roadster)???

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Paul, if you have any succes with the cam adjuster, please let me know...a nice write-up post with detailed description on how you made the adjustment and determined it was the appropriate position would be great, and future readers would probably appreciate it!  If I get to it, I'll do the same, but haven't had time yet.

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Daniel: Thanks for the info re the eccentric adjusters. I've got the same problem as Nate with his 1956 brakes. The manual brakes on my 57 car are like stepping on stone. And braking is scary in city traffic. I've suspected poor quality linings, but there may be more to it than I was aware.   


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For a few weeks I gave up my idea...but I've found myself daydreaming again.  I found this story today about a 51 Buick that went from 4 door to roadster.  I'm using this thread as my collection of ideas.  No matter what eventually happens, hopefully this thread will be useful for the next 15 year-old trapped in a 35 year-old body who wants to cut the roof of his 4-door car.
http://www.thanks2frank.com/featured%20cars%2051%20buick%20kevin%20mayabb.html





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Thanks Daniel!!  That is a new path of hope for the brakes...I'd heard people talk about "cams" and "adjusters" but I was misunderstanding.... it was never as clear as you put it.  I'll check into this.

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maybe I'll just go buy this!
I have up for sale a 1970 307 V8 Chevelle Malibu. This car is in decent shape and is a really good runner. It has had a recent tune up that involved replacing the spark plugs, new radiator, oil change and cleaning and sealing of the gas tank. This car has also had new coil springs put on in the back. This car was a hard top that someone cut the top off of. So it currently does not have a roof. Whoever chopped the top did what I would call a good job, as they left plenty of metal to put a new roof on, and a new roof is a fairly easy to find part that is also not overly expensive. This would be a really cool father son project or you could simply drive it as is and have a fun sunday cruiser. Also, you could chop it further and make a really cool custom. This car was also a four door that was converted into a two door, but the driver's side door is also fixed shut so I would call it a straight up one door. As for rust, the body panels have been patched in and primed, they could use a little finish work to be perfect but look pretty good. The frame and floors seem solid enough. This car really turns heads and gets lots of thumbs up. This would be a great project for anyone who wants a cool low budget Chevelle. Email me with your phone number and any questions you may have and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. $2000 obo Thanks, Peter
Also I might be interested in trading for a running vehicle, such as a truck, 4x4, or vw bug or van, I'm open to a lot of cars, let me know what you have.


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On the brakes issue... the 55/56 Fords (as did a bunch of other 50s Fords) have an ECCENTRIC adjuster stud at the top of each backing plate. As you know, these brakes are not self-adjusting. You have to loosen the large nut at the top of the backing plate on the wheel cylinder side. Then you can turn the eccentric to make sure the top of your shoes are striking the drum at the same time as your lower part of your shoes (adjusted by the star wheel). That could be your problem there.

You can also test your brakes by putting the front end up on stands and then having a friend spin a tire at a time. Press the pedal and see how far you have to go with it until you get full engagement. It isn't scientific I know but it won't hurt to see where you are at. You can do this with the rear as well but you know that most of your stopping power is going to come from the front.

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check out the 1955 Ford Fairlane build at www.hotrodreverend.com


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DJ - Thanks for the link....good to have confirmation that the center support between the door would be pretty wobbly....I'm assuming if the rear doors were welded shut that  would help the wobbly issue.  If I did it, I would not only weld the rear doors but also plan on additional bracing to the floor from those center supports between the doors.   I'm not as worried about stiffening the body, that I'm confident with enough welding and creative metal placement I can make the body rigid.  I'm more worried about bracing the frame, if the frame is too flimsy and transfers those forces the body, I'm worried even all my terrible welding would eventually give way.  One idea I had was to fabricate a tube-frame structure behind the rear seats tied to the frame and the body which would hopefully add support/strength to both.

I have to figure out my brake issue first.  Drove a buddies 65 impala with all manual drums...way better than my 56 ford, almost like a modern car.  I'd say the Ford takes 3-4 times the pedal effort.  Now that I've driven a properly set-up manual drum brake car I know mine needs help. Everything is new and the shoes are in the correct position, pedal is firm..just takes a lot of force to stop...I've got to figure this out before anything else, because it detracts significantly from enjoyment (and safety) of driving.


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Still want to do it? Read Daniel Jessup's post here: http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/FindPost106595.aspx

"another 56 Fairlane Town Sedan project that he bought for $250 after someone had CHOPPED the entire top and left it that way. He is planning to make a roadster out of it since it is so rough. The doors had real problems staying put and the center support between the doors was very wobbly. (Big 6 ft 6 take note here.) Wayne plans to weld quite a bit of sheet metal in it and make it a 2 door, 2 seater, eliminating the rear seat."

Your car may end up like this.


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montana ford man (7/26/2014)
I know the convertible frames are X frames and also the crown victorias all have that same frame.reminds me of my older brother and his best friend in the late 60's.they took a 56 studebaker and cut the top off and made a convertible out of it. then,painted it bright red with surfer crosses on the sides.really cool,but made it kinda flimsy for obvious reasons.as I recall,they didnt drive it very long because of of the draft[my brother enlisted in the coast guard a week before his draft notice,his buddy was not so lucky,in vietnam the following year] also,they had old timers mad because of those"nazi crosses' on the doors!


crown Victoria's do not have the same frame as the convertibles,but they have an extra plate welded to the underside of the frame  Carl
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I know the convertible frames are X frames and also the crown victorias all have that same frame.reminds me of my older brother and his best friend in the late 60's.they took a 56 studebaker and cut the top off and made a convertible out of it. then,painted it bright red with surfer crosses on the sides.really cool,but made it kinda flimsy for obvious reasons.as I recall,they didnt drive it very long because of of the draft[my brother enlisted in the coast guard a week before his draft notice,his buddy was not so lucky,in vietnam the following year] also,they had old timers mad because of those"nazi crosses' on the doors!


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