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4 door ----to----> Convertible (roadster)???

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The other concern is the convertibles are two doors. Not as long a span between the door openings. Someone with structural engineering skills would know more, but I'm guessing some reinforcement under the door sills will be required, even with a reinforced frame. Since the top of the door post (rear door) is not supported, door alignment may be a problem. Both front and rear.

If you weld the rear doors closed, and put reinforcement inside, might be a solution. But the door glass will have to go. Unless you're thinking of a removeable Carson top, the fronts might as well go too.

The only 4 door convertable that come to mind are the early 60's Lincoln's, with the suicide doors. I know there was a lot of insulation, big motor, etc., but dad's '62 weighed 7000 lbs. The covertibles were more. There was a lot of steel in there someplace .

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Just my thoughts, DONT'T DO IT!  You have a nice driver quality car now, enjoy it and find another project. What you are thinking of doing would be a major project for a qualified fab/ body shop. I not saying it can't be done, but the amount of work and expenses would be enormous. I have seen too many projects in scrap yards and out behind barns that the owners lost interest in or discovered they were in over their heads.

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Thanks DJ for the frame pic, that is very helpful for me to understand the serious frame reinforcement required for convertibles.  That is a pretty serious looking x-member.

Without knowing anything else, I assumed I would need a roll-cage like structure in the trunk bracing the frame to the body to give the rear support, and then I also assumed I would need some type of very strong additional support where the rocker panels are under the doors if I hoped to have a functioning door, just like Miker says, it is such a long unsupported span.   I was hoping to provide enough support with these alterations and welding the rear doors (and maybe passenger front door, I really only  need a driver's door) shut to avoid needing to make a serious frame modification, but after seeing DJ's pic it seems a frame modification would likely be mandatory.

My desire to do this has been like a pendulum, but the pendulum has been on the "do it" side about 65% of the time over the last few years.   The rational side of my brain knows that Glen is right, the risk of this being a dead-end project that ruins a (relatively ) functional car is very high.  But I REALLY want a convertible, and a 50's convertible would be amazing...but with no funds in sight for the next 18 years or so, I will need to wait until retirement before I can afford a driver 50's convertible (by then they will likely be selling for $1,000,000 so even then I won't be able to afford them).  By that time the vision of my wife and two young kids and I going for ice cream in a cool open top will have been long past.

thanks all for your thoughts, my enthusiasm has died down....for now. Wink


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Buy another that is in pretty rough shape, do what you want, and you can call it a rat rod if it doesn't work out.  If it does work out, you've had practice and have figured out how to do it to a better car.



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Just buy a 10-15 year old mustang convertible.  Good, reliable and modern-ish and relatively cheap.  No, definitely not as cool as a 50's convertible, but affordable and fun and your kids will have the memories.  Keep and enjoy the 4 door and remember your grandparents or uncle (I forgot the specifics) of who previously owned the car.  If you don't want 2 cars sell the one you enjoy least once you decide.  Glad you decided not to butcher the 4 door.
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My T-Bird is pretty flexible with the X  frame. In my opinion it would be way more time and money than it would be worth.
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Without the X member the car would flex and crack the windsheild.
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You will also need doors off a 2dr or a convertible. You won't be able to get into the back with 4dr front doors. You will need the front seat from a 2dr/convertible
You will need the convertible window frame as it I has extra bracing for the screen.
As others have said it is a M A J O R conversion. 3 times rule. 3 times harder, 3 times longer and 3 times more expensive than you think.
Just enjoy what you have.

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There has to be plenty of cheap convertibles around rather than butchering up a classic like these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Thunderbird-Convertable-1966-ford-thunderbird-convertable-64-000-original-miles-in-storage-/331220827657?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d1e4cbe09&item=331220827657&pt=US_Cars_Trucks






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