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Ted
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LordMrFord (11/25/2012) 351's flange is just there where rear seal should be, so you have to to move flange (or replace to Y's flange) or machine the block's sealing area to get o-ring around the flange like SBF and make long adapter to flywheel. In both way it is very hard. Am I right?Very right.
Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)
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aussiebill
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MoonShadow (11/25/2012) Aren't the Holdens the scrubs of down under? That means they used Y cranks to wake up scrubs? Wow! ChuckChuck, thats right! On another note, we went to hotrod charity birthday bash on sunday and my young daughter won a raffle prize while i was outside and turned out to be framed print of 55 ch**! i tried to sneak it out to car past friends but hey! whats that? came the cry and with bowed head i had to show them! Worst day of my life, caught with this!.
AussieBill YYYY Forever Y Block YYYY Down Under, Australia
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Moz
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i just read your post bill & my eyes have fallen out & im now blind
moz. geelong victoria australia. graduate 1980, bus, truck, car, hot rod, boat, submarine, hovercraft, hydrafoil, firetruck, mobile home, jet, helicopter, cruise ship, motorcycle, bicycle, santa's sleigh, clock, alloy bullbar, alloy fuel tank, lens, dr who's tardis, matter - anti matter warp drive buffer & y-block lover
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Glen Henderson
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Ted, if my old brain is working right this morning, I think I remember the late Richard Gaston talking about the early 60's Indy engines in one of his articles. But since the rules only allowed 255 cubes at the time they must have been used to destroke a 260 block and since Ford was deeply involved in this project there may have been extra block machining performed.
Glen Henderson
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Letohatchee, AL
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Hoosier Hurricane
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Well, I found the article in Oct 1964 Hot Rod, and it wasn't what any of us thought. Ak Miller was building a stroker 289, "just because". Hot Rod reported on it, and Isky tested it on his dyno. Crankshaft Company made the stroker by machining the rear flange and front snout to small block configuration, grinding the mains to size, and grinding the throws to 2" to fit the CSC's special rods with Olds 215 rod bearings. Offset grinding was available to allow up to 352 cubic inches. Apparently it worked well enough that CSC decided to market them. It would be much more difficult to go the other way, putting a 351 crank in a Y.
John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"
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I gust came across this old post , I remember Reading About the Shelby team using a 292 truck crank in both there AC Cobra and there GT40 cars, These engines worked well but the extra stroke added stress to the 289 block causing Cracks in the main webbing. They stated the engines were ok for short races but they wouldn't last a 24 hour race like Lemans! The cranks Shelby used were destroked to 3.25 stroke! The information was quite limited because Shelby didn't want to many to know what they were doing to make the cars competitive!
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Hmmmm... Interesting, Small Block. THANKS for sharing that info.
NoShortcuts a.k.a. Charlie Brown near Syracuse, New York
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yalincoln
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say john, try the 63 indy article? not sure whitch magazine. I remember readeing about it.
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Hoosier Hurricane (11/23/2012)
Ted: Maybe you were thinking of another project from Ford. When they were going to provide an Indy pace car ('64 Mustang maybe) with a 289 they decided they needed more inches for more speed. 302s weren't here yet, so they stroked a 289 with a 292 crank. I have an article somewhere in a Hot Rod magazine. Maybe I can find it. I went threw some old info and found the artical(it shows 3 cranks 260.289 and the forged 292 and a pictur of? poss. jack himself. cliff
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PF Arcand
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There was an article many years ago about the 1964 (?) Ford Indy engines reprinted in Y-Block Magazine. I don't recall anything about the crankshafts being mentioned, but those SBF based engines, apparently used some of the upper valve gear from Y-Blocks, because the factory SBF upper ends were considered to not be durable enough for a 500 mile race. Apparently, some of the mods were put together with Isky involved..
Paul
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