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12 volt conversion II - BAD

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I have tried everything since I converted to 12 volt, removed ignitor and sent it back to company for exchange. I put in new points and set them at 16 with no luck, turns over with no firing and definitely getting fire to points, I bump the distributor with my remote start and they open and close.

The car was fine when I made the decision to go with the conversion, coil and solenoid are ok, rotor button is new, dist. cap is fairly new, plug wires are fine, don't know what else to try.



Does anyone have a trouble shooting list so I can see if I have missed something?

Also on back of the alternator there is a male outlet with a #1 and #2 terminals 1 goes to charge lite and ignition switch and #2 goes directly to battery, is this required? I hooked it up without any difference being made.

Appreciate any help.

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What do you mean by no firing? There is spark but it won't run or there is no spark?


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sorry , there is spark but it won't start.

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Since it turns over and has spark, it's probably a timing or fuel issue. Since the stuff you've messed with will affect timing, get a timing light and see where it is at.


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Have you tried putting gas down the carb to see if it will fire?



You said you are getting spark to the points. Are you getting power to the plugs?




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I presume you are using a GM alternator. The terminals need to be hooked up as per the instructions but you can loop the wire from terminal 2 to the Alternator output terminal.

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no I haven't tested to see if I'm getting fire to the plugs, but will check that.

Is it possible the ignition switch could be the problem?

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Is that the same as using a jumper from terminal 2 to 1 then hooking 1 up as per the diagram?

I am using a GM alternator.

Thanks for your input.


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Engine needs 4 things to run. Fuel, Air, Spark, and proper synchronization.

1) Air is easy. You can verify by putting hand over carb hole (sealing it off with your palm) if it sucks hard when you crank the starter you're drawing air. Best to disconnect coil to prevent a possible backfire hurting your hand.

2) Spark can be verified easily enough...Remove high tension wire from coil where it plugs into distributor and position it 1/4 inch from any convenient ground and crank with starter switch. should see/hear spark. (don't hold onto wire with your hand...Dummies do that and It really hurts!) If there is enough zap to jump a quarter of an inch it's enough to run an engine.

3) Fuel is easy. Get a can of starter fluid and shoot a little down carb whilst cranking. (after restoring coil HV wire) If engine tries to start on starting fluid...spark and air are Okay. Fuel delivery may be bad...Fuel pump, or carb?

4) If engine bangs and tries to run backwards or sideways, probably a timing issue. One possibility...Distributor could be 180 degrees out.



One warning!!! NEVER put your face over the carb when trying any of these things. I actually knew a guy who did...The car backfired through the carb, he breathed the hot gasses into his lungs and died right there.
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Appreciate all your guys input.


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