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Borgeson's yblock power steering pump and and ford 52-64 gear box

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Borgeson's yblock power steering pump and and ford 52-64 gear box

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tarheel
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I have a question I'd like to ask - I'm thinking about using the Borgeson box in my '56 but one thing has me stumped. I'd really like to use the original column ( I know it will have to be shortened) and the original steering wheel, but the horn wire running through the steering mast and the steering box is a problem. Has anyone converted a 50s Ford steering wheel to the scrub type of connection where the wire runs outside the steering mast and uses a sliding connection to a conductive plate on the steering wheel? I don't like the idea of having a horn button on the column or the dash.

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I am using a rack and pinion out of an early model grand am and made my own brackets. I cut the column just below the shifter bracket on the 56 big car. As for the shifter i am using a cable shifter from b and m on the aod. For the power steering pump i am going to go with an electric pump and mount it under the car so it cannot be seen. Thats if i cannot find a manual steering rack and pinion. The car around the neighborhood without the ps pump steers greateven around the driveway it steers with one finger. I would imagine if i can find a manual rack just like the ps one it would be great. Just my experience.

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Grizzly
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Guy's,

This project is far from being on my front burner but I have this additional information.

For those who have a rack fitted which is too light I am aware of these two solutions http://www.heidts.com/_uploaded_files/in-064.pdf which has already been mentioned and http://borgeson.com/instructions/899001.

I have bought in the adaptor plate which I mentioned earlier. The right hand drive aisin power steering box which is the mirror image of the one used the the borgeson kit was available in Australia in a Holden Jackaroo (1999) attached are photo's of the box with the adaptor plate attached.

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Warren

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What about a Unisteer unit? Anyone tried one? They advertise that they are made specific for Y-Blocks and will work, (I Think) with a standard transmission. You do have ti cut down your stock steering column, but you can use  a custom column if you tell them in advance, before ordering the kit. CHeck out their site;

http://www.unisteer.com/?gclid=CJKZuuvisLICFQcTNAodpn0AXw

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Posted 14 Years Ago
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I just ordered the gear box so I can get it mounted before motor goes in.
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lordmrford,

there will be a way to sort out the pitman arm issue but it will be the right way, the safe way and the leagle way.

the swap makes a lot of sense as the right hand worm gears are scarce and a weak point to start with.

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Warren

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Grizzly (7/20/2012)
Lordmrford,

Australia has restrictive athorities so changing things like pitman arms is difficult. I'll try to attach the sellers email on another posting.



I think you can get in jail in Finland, if DIY Pitman arm breaks in action. Everything is illegal in nowdays...



Interesting stuff you got.


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Quote,

Hi,Here are pics of several different pitman arm mods to connect the Ford arm to the Isuzugear.
1, 2, 3: Grind down or drill out stock splines, turn down Isuzu splines, clock, insert andweld on top and bottom.
4: Modified Isuzu short arm. Cut off top piece. Put in a press, heat and bend
5: Modified Isuzu long arm. Cut off top piece. Put in a press, heat and bend
6, 7, 8: Cut Isuzu am. Cut Ford arm. Weld together 

 

 

 

 

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Lordmrford,

This is a problem that I have yet to completely sort. I'm in no way associated with the sale on ebay I did however contact the seller and ask the same question about getting a pitman arm. He suggested heating and bending the isuzu arms, removing the spline and installing it into the Ford one. Cutting the head off one arm and welding it to the other.

Internet research suggests that the ford one can be heated and stretched onto a spare shaft. This suggests that the ford spline is smaller than the isuzu one so it might be possible to cut the isuzu spline into the ford arm. There is also custom pitman arms available through hot rod or 4WD sources.

Australia has restrictive athorities so changing things like pitman arms is difficult. I'll try to attach the sellers email on another posting.

 Cheers

Warren

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BTW. Can you use Ford Pitman arm with Isuzu?


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