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Wanted Weiand Drag Star 6x2 Intake manifold

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Guys,

didn't really want to start a discussion on the application woes of a 6x2 manifold. Fact is, this manifold will join my Weiand v/c set, and end up on one of 2 things at this point. Either a rowdy Y-block in a 1960's-era wooden V-drive (that is currently housing the neglected 375hp 390" that was originally in my '61 Starliner) or in a hoodless roadster or coupe. Either way, the "WOW" factor is what I'm after.

I'm moved by everyone's concern...really, I am.

Oh, yeah...still looking for a 6x2 Weiand Drag starBigGrin

Todd in Central California...about half way between Fresno and Sacramento

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Tod

Have you put out the word on the H.A.M.B., Lots of carbs look GOOD!

Gary Ryan San Antonio.TX.

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PF Arcand (5/9/2011)
JMO: Can you elaborate on your statement that 2 Bbl carbs are rated differently than 4 Bbls?. Holley 94s for instance were nominaly rated at 150 or 155 cfm. So, on paper, 6 of them = 900 to 930 CFM. I'll suggest just for discussion, that's likely far more cfm than most Y-blks can handle, unless they have a substantialy oversize displacement & serious performance up grades.

Flow ratings for carburetors are measured at pressure drop of 1.5 inches of mercury for 3 and 4 barrel units and 3.0 inches for 1 and 2 barrels.  So, to compare a 150 cfm Holley 94  to a 4 barrel, you have to multiply it by .707.  That equals about 106 cfm.  106 cfm times 6 equals 636 cfm.  You can see that the maximum flow is not that much as compared to a dual quad set up.  The dreaded throttle response is, IMO, usually attributable to poor tuning or initial set up.  I have seen several 6 x 2 and even 8 x 2 installations that run fairly well up to a point.   Ultimately they fall short on power because they just can't flow even as much as a couple of small 4 barrels.  

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glrbird (5/10/2011)
Tod

Have you put out the word on the H.A.M.B., Lots of carbs look GOOD!

 

Yeah, sure did...

BTW, thanks for "getting it" Gary. Apparently I should have posted this on the general discussion board.

Guys, it's not that I don't appreciate the comments and informed opinions, but I really don't care about how tempermental a 6x2 is. I don't care about net performance output, and I know that probably a "B" manifold would run better and be more drivable. A fuel injected 5.0 would be also run better and be more drivable, as would an FE, or a 455 Olds, or a 500" Caddy...all of which are options in-hand. I don't care to be ordinary, or practical for the end result here.

I am looking for a 6x2 Drag star. PERIOD. Not looking for lecturesRolleyes.

Todd in Central California...about half way between Fresno and Sacramento

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Todd,

Have you see these http://kustoms.com.au/osc/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=31. I'm not associated with the company nor have any info on them. I was just searching the net and remembered your post.

Cheers

Warren

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Grizzly (5/17/2011)
Todd,

Have you see these http://kustoms.com.au/osc/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=31. I'm not associated with the company nor have any info on them. I was just searching the net and remembered your post.

Cheers

Warren

Beautiful manifold, but kinda steep for the amount of work still required to make it ready to bolt-on...and I'd really rather match my Weiand valve covers Wink

Todd in Central California...about half way between Fresno and Sacramento

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gekko13 (5/10/2011)
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Flow ratings for carburetors are measured at a pressure drop of 1.5 inches of mercury for 3 and 4 barrel units and 3.0 inches for 1 and 2 barrels. So, to compare a 150 cfm Holley 94 to a 4 barrel, you have to multiply (the cfm) by .707. That equals about 106 cfm. 106 cfm times 6 equals 636 cfm. You can see that the maximum flow is not that much as compared to a dual quad set up.




THANKS gekko13! While I've known that two barrel carbs were rated at a different pressure drop than 4 barrel carbs, I never was clear as to how to compare their flow ratings.



Going a bit further with this issue, the Holley 94 was upgraded over time using different venturi sizes and different venturi enhancements. The Ford EBU6 carb (Holley knock-off) used on '56 Fords had 1 1/16 venturis, 1 3/8 throttle plates, an automatic choke, and annular (?) style venturi boosters. They were rated at 245 cfm.



For those of us fiddling with 3x2 set-ups, your multiplier tells me that using one of these would flow ~173 cfm (in four barrel language) and the three together would be rated at ~520 cfm when put together. Six together would be 1,039 cfm!?! My recollection is that the '57 teapots were rated at 330 cfm each or 660 on a 2x4 set-up.



While a good four barrel is perhaps the best way to go performance-wise, especially with John Mummert's new manifold, I love the looks of the multiple carbs, air cleaners, and the linkage! Smile

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Well, Todd, it's the end of June. Are you still holding out for a Weiand 6x2 manifold or are you ready to look at another brand?



See ebay listing number 120741744796. This is an Offenhauser unit. It intrigues me because it takes 4 bolt carburetors.



The linkage for one of these set-ups must be something else! Whistling



Hope this helps! Smile



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I know it's not what you are looking for but there is a Offy manifold on E-Bay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Y-BLOCK-FORD-6X2-INTAKE-312-292-OFFY-RAT-ROD-GASSER-/120741744796?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c1cc4d09c#ht_500wt_1124


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I have weiand Drag star model # WD6.  not sure if anyone is intersted.  Willing to give up cheap!  getting ready to move.w00t


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