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Carb opinions - Trying to figure out the next one to try

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Hey guys; I need to ask the gurus here for their expert opinion/advice on carb selection. I have tried a holley 390, an edelbrock 500, and most recently a Demon Jr 525. Here are the results/thoughts on each:

Holley – easy to tune, good throttle response, lowest WOT power by far of the 3. Easy starting. Just weak in overall power though

Edelbrock – Best WOT power by far, poor throttle response (relatively) Runs much richer at idle to be happy. Used Oil analysis shows much more fuel dilution of oil with this carb then the holley to back up this thought (in addition to fuel smell). Just feels sloppy at mid range throttle settings; its more like on/off for around town driving.

Demon – disaster. Tried changing jets, power valves, squirters, timing, etc and never got it to run right. Took it apart and found all kinds of metal shavings and junk in it, and even after cleaning it out, never got it to be driveable….just terrible. I wont get another demon.

Specs of the car/engine:

56 Sunliner

292/ford-o-matic

Cam – mummert FY-270-3

Duration @.050 – 224/224

Lobe separation – 110 deg

Gross lift - .469/.469

Ignition – later style dist, pertronix, stock coil, initial timing ~15 deg (tried moving up and down); plugs about 4 mos old gapped to stock, wires about a year old.

Vaccuum at idle ~13-14" @500 rpm

Ive talked to Jegs (from whom I got the demon) and they have offered to exchange the demon for any other carb of my choice….so thus the point of this question. What carb would you chose knowing objectives and history? My thought right now is a #4160 holley 600, or morel likely a holley street avenger 570 (even though its dual inlet), although I have some concern over those being too big and losing some throttle response. I know some have recommended the holley truck avenger 470, but im not sure that would be a big enough jump over the 390? Also, anything weird about the truck carb – it specifically says not for use on v8’s.

Preference is for one with elec choke, vac secondaries, and single fuel inlet.

Also, Holley just released a series of carbs with non-adjustable floats (4160 series). Any thoughts on those (pros/cons?)?

THANK YOU in advance for taking the time to read this and for any thoughts/comments!

Ron Grove

Wauconda, IL


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Forum Post Carb opinions - Trying to figure out the next one to try By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post As mentioned in previous posts, I'm running a Holley 465, supposedly... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post I use the 570 and like it a lot. They recommend it for about 300ci,... By charliemccraney ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post You can buy the quick change spring kit for the holley and that will... By speedpro56 ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post I've got no experience with the Carter / Edelbrock style of carb and... By GREENBIRD56 ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks guys for all the comments thus far! Im leaning towards the... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rgrove (7/12/2010)[/b][hr]
Also, with the 570 avenger,...
By charliemccraney ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]GREENBIRD56 (7/12/2010)[/b][hr]I've got no experience with... By aussiebill ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hi Ron
I have been running a 465 Holley R-1848 on my 292 with B...
By rick55 ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post A reason the 465 cfm is a good fit for the Y-blk is that it has the... By PF Arcand ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post While talking to the Holley rep about card size and that the 600 I had... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]55vickey (7/13/2010)[/b][hr]While talking to the Holley rep... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hey Ron, I'm running a 272, I had the large valves installed, an rv... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron: At the beginning of this thread, you stated that the Holley... By Hoosier Hurricane ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Here is a link to the Holley site regarding the 0-1848-1 465 CFM carb.... By marvh ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]marvh (7/13/2010)[/b][hr]Here is a link to the Holley site... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Also, i just noticed that the 465 is a hot air choke vs. electric.... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]rgrove (7/13/2010)


The more I read the more...
By marvh ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Gary - My concern is really around my cam. It isnt stock, its 224 deg... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post My 57 intake had a choke tube tap into the hot air crossover already... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Gary, That makes sense, but I have one of the original mummert AL... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron, or you can get the manual choke kit, you should already have a... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post The cam limitation seems to be rather general. I think the Edelbrock... By charliemccraney ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron, with the mild cam that I'm running the 465 is ideal, the 600 was... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Dang it, Charlie! I was settled on the 465 until you threw your vote... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Well, like I said, you can get opinions and advice all day. You just... By charliemccraney ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Charlie, was the dyno test you refer to something here or elsewhere?... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post It is in the last issue of Y-Block Magazine.
If I remember right,...
By charliemccraney ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post i know you cant buy them new but the autolite 4100 remains my... By 314 ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ron, I have a RV cam, it's around 210>215 @ 50, it's a lower end... By 55vickey ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post Called Jegs tech again. This guy recommended the 465 as being more... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post My carb of choice for the Y-block is the Autolite 4100 spread-bore... By IowaJoe ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post I question the Jegs tech guy's knowledge of carburetor operation. He... By Hoosier Hurricane ( 14 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Hoosier Hurricane (8/4/2010)[/b][hr]I question the Jegs tech... By rgrove ( 14 Years Ago )


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