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Lookin good Charley!. Have you found what causes the heavy paper to shrink? Heat from the printer?

You might be able to dim the blue one with a higher value resistor. But eventually you will reach a threshold voltage where it probably won't light at all. I know you can run them at less than design voltage. It will increase life and run cooler but I don't know how much it will dim.

Sounds like an interesting project.

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I got new LEDs and appropriate resistors. The blue one is a nice shade of blue but it might end up being too bright. The shade of the green one is not quite what I want and it might be dimmer than I need for the daytime. They are different, maybe different series; the blue one is clear but when illuminated is blue. The green one is green when not illuminated. I'm also doing my preliminary testing with a 9v battery so they'll probably be brighter when used as intended. Comparing the brightness of these on paper is not as straight forward as comparing bulbs. With a bulb you just look at the wattage. With LEDs you consider the intensity and beam angle. So a more intense but smaller angle LED can be as bright as a less intense, larger angle LED. Welcome to the world of electronics, I guess.

So tomorrow, I'll swing by Fry's to see if there is a different green and a dimmer blue. If not I'll work with those I have and deal with it later.

Now I need to adjust my drawing according to the pitch of the prototyping board so that the LEDs are centered with their respective symbols. ...That will most likely mean I have to print another template.


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And the template is finished.







The heavier paper shrinks the drawing slightly along the X axis for some reason. I'll have to take note of that for future templates and keep it in mind when I'm cutting this piece out. I verified it against my test print out and my final draft of the instrument panel outline.



Edit: It was about .090" off which will throw my clearances way out of whack. So I scaled X by 1.004 and now it looks right.


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I am very pleased with the layout. I normally like symmetry but 3 big ol gauges would have been too much. And there's room to spare! I do wish I could have had all of the gauges be the same brand and series.

Ford really ruined any chance of symmetry without major work. The gauge panel is sorta tapered. I think it's about 1/4" difference from one side to the other.

I just finished printing my test template on some scrap paper. Now I'm going to print it on the heavy stuff which will be used to transfer to steel.


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Looks nice Charlie, I like the asymmetry.









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That's exactly what it is. The instructions on the packaging weren't clear to me but a visit to the manufacturer's website cleared it up.


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Charley, LED's are made to operate on 4-5 VDC so a dropping resistor is required. They are also polarity sensitive. Its been so long since I worked with any I don't remember the exact voltage or what polarity the identifed terminal is.

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I have the design of the gauge panel pretty well finished. The circles around the perimeter mark where either bolts or welded studs will fasten this panel into a cut out original panel. I'll probably do studs because that will allow me to use filler and make it look like one piece.







A larger view of the indicator light concept.







I picked up some LED's from fry's to play with. Apparently there's more to them as one blew almost immediately and the other was getting hot. Anyhow, they are available in several different colors which will simplify things. With a clear lens, the color is quite rich. This will eliminate the need for colored lenses and I think a clear lens will look better against a white background.


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I don't think I'm going to do the invisible look. There are several problems. First, the light bleeds as it passes through the clear and painted lens so it does not produce as sharp an image as I would like. Second, I'm painting the cluster white and it results in the colors becoming more like pastels and that's not manly. Third, I don't have the patience to color sand the cluster to get the uniform look I want; without this, imperfections in the thickness of the paint show up when the light is illuminated.

I'm going to order the materials I need this week and do a little more experimenting but I'll probably end up doing a light panel which will be painted white with a clear lens and then the colored lenses behind it which should blend in well. The execution of this one will actually be a bit trickier but it's the kind of tricky I have patience for.


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Charlie, post photos when you figure it out. I'm getting ready to redo my panel and am always looking for ideas. Mike

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