I used to commute 75 miles round trip with a little Chevy sprint 1000cc 3 cylinder (solid lifters and carbureted ).  Checked mileage very often.  With 100 percent gas it was 50 mpg.  With E10 it was 45. 

Currently on hand are a chainsaw, blower, and weedeater with carburetor problems due to ETOH.  Cost to me to have them repaired is about 50.00 ea., and I dont have time to deal with them myself.  ETOH is junk, unless it is in a Jack Daniels bottle.  Next we will be forced to buy H20-10.

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.

There are apparently maintenance problems with the present amount of ethanol in fuel. Further,any ideas that it will be the primary fuel of the future, are environmentalists & or politicians pipe dreams. A couple of sober articles I've read, including one in Car & Driver, have convinced me it is an impracticable solution to replacing the current system.

Paul

E85 things...

http://raceone85.com/

http://iqlearningsystems.com/ethanol/racers.html

http://www.e85mustangs.com/

http://www.brightmare.net/

Actually we are going to switch to E85 with our dragster. Not this summer, but for the next season maybe... More boost, more power

 Seppo from Järvenpää, Finland
www.hollowheads.net (just click the hole in the head to proceed)

Well maybe forever was the wrong word (Nothing last forever) but it has to last a good long time, most people I know with airplanes only use them rarely and I never hear of the gas going bad.

55 Vicky & customline

58 Rack Dump, 55 F350 yard truck, 57 F100

59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

Good if you can get it so easily, but didnt think avgas kept forever, when we raced we never used old drums of it?? only fresh or very recent supplies of it.

  AussieBill            YYYY    Forever Y Block     YYYY

 Down Under, Australia

Avgas is very efficient and they cannot change the components because they cannot afford to have planes falling from the sky. I have a buddy that sells only avgas from his filling station for hot rods and also have a couple small local airports near me where I can get it for under $4.00 na gallon. then there are the airports that paint planes, they have to remove all the fuel for safety reasons and cannot put it back in the planes. I buy 55 gallon drums from them for $100.00 thats less than $2.00 a gallon. matter of fact I am going to visit the local airport that paints planes as soon as i get home and stock up.

its over 100 octane, last forever, and is leaded. I think more people should go their local airports and make friends. especially the ones that do repairs on airplanes and have to remove the fuel and cannot put it back in by law.

55 Vicky & customline

58 Rack Dump, 55 F350 yard truck, 57 F100

59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

One of the reasons when using ethanol you gets less MPG than gasoline is that ethanol only has ~ 2/3 the BTU rating of gasoline, meaning you would have to burn more ethanol to make the same HP as when using gasoline. In other words, ethanol is not a very efficient fuel compared to gasoline.

BOB

I wasn't really thinking of fuel efficiency. But there is a problem I see with the vehicles capable of running both fuels. If it runs on gasoline, it will have to have compression that is lower than ideal for the E85; it can't provide the best of both worlds. And there may be other things that need to be changed since I am not familiar with the differences between an alcohol engine and a gasoline engine. I wonder how the efficiency is affected if the engine is built with the intent of only using E85.


Lawrenceville, GA

Bob, if you look at your post, the Grandchildren and children statement is followed by a sentence with the $$$ directly under it. Maybe it was just the way it looked to me when I first read it. I fully understand that the comment was about the ethanol situation. The thought process for my comment was ... if the government is so concerned about the ethanol/gasoline possibilities for ultimately cleaner air for our offspring, what about the debt we have put ourselves in to carry on with what the government wants us to do?

While I fully agree this is not a political comment forum, we cannot have our heads in the sand on any of the issues that affect what we do with our cars, emissions, ethanol, gasoline, etc. The more we bow to Big Brother by not voting, not voicing our opinion, not getting involved, etc, the more we open ourselves up to groups who think in the minority about the day to day issues that we Y block owners face.

No problem bob, and thanks bill...

I am the worst at being politically correct, call it a character trait...  

Daniel Jessup

Lancaster, California

aka "The Hot Rod Reverend"
check out the 1955 Ford Fairlane build at www.hotrodreverend.com

My comment on “Our Grandchildren and Future generations” was referring to gasoline and ethanol, not the bail outs.



I agree with Bill though, “This is not a place for political thoughts”

BOB