I’ve had several persons express an interest in seeing the Y run at the EMC competition in Lima, Ohio so here’s my schedule.

Have the engine at Lima, Ohio on Tuesday Oct 6^th, 2009

Set up the engine on the dyno cart starting at 1PM Wednesday Oct 7^th, 2009.

Run the Y at 9AM-11AM Thursday Oct 8^th, 2009.

Friday is the day that the top six get to run their engines again for ‘Top Dog’ honors.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

Good luck Ted, wish I could be there! Keep us posted and take lots of pictures.

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

Ted:       All the best to YOU and hopefully showing the rest,of the performance

       community, the "Y" ain't dead yet.....

                                            Bill

Bill

Pelham,Al

Good luck!


Hyvinkää, FI

Good luck Ted.

Warsaw, IN

I think they'll be in awe when they see that we can be competitive with 50 year old technology. They will fear the potential that lurks with aftermarket development.



Good luck!


Lawrenceville, GA

Good luck Ted.

John F

Ballwin, MO

Good Luck Ted, We're ALL behind you championing our Favorite engine in every respect!!!!!!!!!

-Gary Burnette-

Ted, from our conversations it sounds like you're well prepared. Good luck!

http://ford-y-block.com 

20 miles east of San Diego, 20 miles north of Mexico

Ted, even though you are well seasoned in the performance scene, are you getting nervous, like excited !

Best of luck!!!

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.

I'm going to try and make it down to the dyno room on my 30min break from class on that thursday. If you need anything while in town let me know. Best of luck, -Andrew

1959 and 1960 f-100sAkron OH

Ted,

You have a lot of folks pulling for you and anticipating the reactions that your Y is sure to receive from folks that will be unsuspecting of what your going to show them!!

Good Luck,

Larry Boyer

Pelahatchie, MS - 57 Bird

Larry Boyer

57 Black Bird

Ted..

Like all the rest of the Y block community, Dave and I wish all the luck, knowing that it will not be luck, but just plain work..

Brother and I own/operate 1957 Ford Fairlane 312/4x2 and two 1963 Falcons 302 rollers carburated 600cfm, FE427 sitting in shed..

God luck! 

Top Dog Ted has a nice ring to it - JJ

Good luck Ted, you are our fearless leader...............

Charlie Burns Laton, Ca (South of Fresno)



BurnsRacing981@gmail.com

Guys.  Thanks for the accolades.  With the engine now put back to the parameters that has produced the best results up until now, I’ll be making just a few checkout pulls on the EMC engine today and then it comes off the dyno to get readied for the trip to Ohio.  There’s a very good chance the Y will be the only engine there with oem iron heads.  Although I don’t see this engine being anywhere near the top of the list as far as the scoring goes, I still plan on this engine to at least make a good showing.  A series of solid dyno pulls at the EMC competition will at least show what one of these vintage engines is capable of and still being on 91 octane pump fuel.

Andrew.  Be sure to drop by and say Hi.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

Ted, our thoughts and prayers are with you! Go get 'em!

Daniel Jessup

Lancaster, California

aka "The Hot Rod Reverend"
check out the 1955 Ford Fairlane build at www.hotrodreverend.com

Ted,

best of luck from a fellow Texan!

Mark

"God Bless Texas"location: Houston,TX

Ted, I can't say it any better than the other guys- yes we are definitely pulling for you.  An exciting adventure, wish I could be there.  Good luck!  Nick Brann, K.C., MO

As far as I'm concerned you, TED and the Yblock in this instance ARE already winners.

Congratulations on all your hard work and dedication to get into the selection.

You persevered and lobbied for all the mushroom lifter thing last year and "they" took notice.

I believe that more and more people are going to get interested in what yblockers have and want to learn more about it.

It's a good thing I already have a couple of them, after this, demand may go up and the price.

Go get 'em, Ted.

       A  L  A  N   F  R  A  K  E  S   ~  Tulsa, OK    

CHARGE!

You gotta have the right tools and know how to use 'em.

TC - Austin, Texas

Good Luck, Ted - I'm sure by now luck won't have much to do with it - must be dialed in!!!

But luck might be just the thing to get an extra horse or two......

 
 Steve Metzger       Tucson, Arizona

ted,

KILLER!

man, just the exposure to all the big league magazines and exotic engine builders is going to create lots of attention.



sometimes a kick out of the ordinary B/B chevy is all it takes.



if anybody can grab some video of the Y run, that would be great too!

(i'm also glad to see an FE team entered too)



GO FORD!!

This ain't no L-Kamino!

Hmmmm!, I'll be working in Martinsburg, WV that week, its only 7.5 hrs away, How many spectators are allowed?

Go get em Ted, best of luck! I can see the headlines now, "Terrible Ted takes engine masters by storm"

55 Vicky & customline

58 Rack Dump, 55 F350 yard truck, 57 F100

59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

show em' what some good ol' vintage American Iron is capable of.. make a good video too, I'd love to see and hear it..

Dustin

Southern Oregon Y's Guy

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1441322018

Here’s a couple of pics of the EMC engine, one on the dyno and the other with it sitting in the floor yesterday getting it ready to package up for transport.  After this competition is done, I’ll post some of the dyno info which is surprising good considering the engine is 10.1:1CR and has very good idling characteristics.  Crossing my fingers that the results I had on my dyno can be duplicated or even bettered on the dynos at the University of Northwestern Ohio.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

give em hell ted !!!!

moz. geelong victoria australia.

graduate 1980, bus, truck, car, hot rod, boat, submarine, hovercraft, hydrafoil, firetruck, mobile home, jet, helicopter, cruise ship, motorcycle, bicycle, santa's sleigh, clock, alloy bullbar, alloy fuel tank, lens, dr who's tardis, matter - anti matter warp drive buffer & y-block lover

Cool! Looks like the Mummert intake is definitely good for performance. What's the deal with the water pump? You running the electric at the competition?


Lawrenceville, GA

Check out the rear sump oilpan!

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

 lima's not that far, need help?

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Frank.  The crew slots have already been filled but the Y is being well represented with both Harry Hutten and Jerry Christenson being a part of the crew.  I don’t see why you couldn’t come up and watch though.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

When and where in Lima? Is it OK to pick on Jerry?

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Frank:        Go on up there! You can "warn" the crowd to "back off"

           when Ted hits the button.... Jokes aside, go give'em a few cheers,

           I know most on this site would love to be there.

                                                Bill

Bill

Pelham,Al

While I'm thinking about it, Bring jets. It's going to be colder than Texas and the density altitude will be less than home. 

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Team Eaton,

Have a successful week!  Rooting for you from So. Cal.

Paul F

.

Not to hijack this thread but: Good to see you on the forum Paul. Haven't heard from you lately.

http://ford-y-block.com 

20 miles east of San Diego, 20 miles north of Mexico

Ted, be sure and record the dyno runs on both video and audio. Utube awaits you!!!!

Bud

Bud in Northern Arizona on route 66 in Winslow (standin' on the corner)

If you're American, buy American

631/2 Galaxie 500XL 406   55 T-Bird

Ted, tell us more about that electric water pump assembly. We might want similar one to our dragster. What brand and what modifications needed?

 Seppo from Järvenpää, Finland
www.hollowheads.net (just click the hole in the head to proceed)

Seppo:

It maybe a day or two before Ted can reply, so I'll tell you what I know about the waterpump. It's a bigblock scrub pump with a machined adapter for the Y timing cover. I asked him the same thing a few months back. I don't know if he has plans to market it or not, but it looks cool. If you look on Ted's web site there are other pictures.

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

Thanks Glen. I have no hurry. Soon there will be 40 inches of snow on the ground and we all fall into winter sleep and we won't wake up until spring arrives   Hope I will see dreams about electrical water pumps and at least thousand horses of power .

 Seppo from Järvenpää, Finland
www.hollowheads.net (just click the hole in the head to proceed)

it's good to see ford in 5 of the 8 top spots so far.



i was surprised to see olds in #4 spot.

This ain't no L-Kamino!

Here's a link to the results so far

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/challenge/0901em_2009_engine_masters_challenge/index.html


Lawrenceville, GA

Thanks for the link Charlie.

I didn't know it was going to be updated daily as it happens! COOL!

What's everyone else up to thursday at 9am?? I'm starting to get nervous and I'm not even there.

Go Ted!

       A  L  A  N   F  R  A  K  E  S   ~  Tulsa, OK    

Today is the day! Go get em Ted! Chuck in NH

Y's guys rule!
Looking for McCullouch VS57 brackets and parts. Also looking for 28 Chrysler series 72 parts. And early Hemi parts.

MoonShadow, 292 w/McCulloch, 28 Chrysler Roadster, 354 Hemi)
Manchester, New Hampshire

Dove's lack of luck is too bad.  It would have been nice to see what the famous "Cammer" produced.  There may not be another chance, like with the Y.  Go Ted!

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.

It looks like they might be listing the top 8 only on that link. Let's hope a Y shows up!

It should be running right now.


Lawrenceville, GA

yep, I think I hear the distinctive rumble.

       A  L  A  N   F  R  A  K  E  S   ~  Tulsa, OK    

These are the comments from EMC crew. Well done Ted. Now we just have to wait and see all the rest results to see how high Ted will end up at ranking.

9:00 - Team #6 Ted Eaton Specialty & Balancing/Ford

Ted Eaton of Ted Eaton Specialty and Balancing has a fondness for the Y-block Ford. These engines were very advanced for their time, and achieved notoriety in Nascar and other racing venues in the late fifties. Ted sought to update the performance of one of these classic engines, while keeping a traditional look. The 375-cubic inch engine performed well, easily making over 400 horsepower. While the combination definitely came to the competition as an underdog, it was a treat to be able to see what one of these engines can do.

Pull #	1	2	3	Avg
Torque	379.6	377	377.5	378
Horsepower	354.9	352.1	352.4	353.1
Final Score - 1,949.8@ 375 CI

I think the highest score at the moment is 2.5 and something...

 Seppo from Järvenpää, Finland
www.hollowheads.net (just click the hole in the head to proceed)

Highest score is now 2646 to Jon Kaases second team (Jon Kaase Racing (Almost Kaase)/Ford). 403 Cleveland.

 

-jyrki from Finland-

www.hollowheads.net

Well, we're not last! A 426 Chrysler got 1864.6 and there are a few that did not finish.

And peaking over 400hp on pump gas, something none of the mainstream magazines have done! That's sure to get some attention.


Lawrenceville, GA

Got this off the site.

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

Y-Guys:        Ted sure has "aged" in the last month!!!!!!!

              Ok, OK, everyone knows its Jerry(wonder who let him in?)

                   They did great for all the "hi-tech" modern technology

             they were up against!

                   Very proud of you guys.............

                                          Bill

Bill

Pelham,Al

Fantastic. A creditable showing with IRON 50 Year old heads !! Has anybody seen any 50's (or 60's or 70's or 80's Scrubs with factory heads there. i don't think so!

      Congratulations to Ted, Jerry and Harry. You guys are the MAN (or Men)!!              with this, Bob Lindsay and John Feistritzer any remaining questions about Ford Y Blocks performance has been answered.           

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Get the man a can of Greecian Formula....Joke..

It was Spring Thaw that I saw Ted last, and he was rushed there chasing his bonnet...

He and all the rest deserve all the praise that we as a Y commuity can give.. and I as one of the Greatest group of auto nuts do... Congrates Crew..

Brother and I own/operate 1957 Ford Fairlane 312/4x2 and two 1963 Falcons 302 rollers carburated 600cfm, FE427 sitting in shed..

A great effort by everyone involved especially Ted.  The Y must be near the top of the FACTORY IRON Head brigade,  it might even be a brigade of one!!  The Y is clearly the BEST of 1956 technology!!

Doug T

The Highlands, Louisville, Ky.

And guys, I am one lucky y-blocker! I only live a bit over an hour from Ted and can run down to Doc Eaton's even after work in the afternoon!



Ted had two very good people in his tech crew. Harry and Jerry are both proven winners, I just wonder how many "scrub" jokes Jerry made!!!??? Not shabby results at all for old iron heads!



Guess I will have to make a run down to Ted's after he gets back to get all the juicy details!




Jim (site owner)
'56 Club Sedan - Ted Eaton built 429 hp '292/318, '54 Sunliner - stock '302

Question? Ted built a 375 cu. in Y-Block? How did he do that?

Paul

Paul:

I'm sure Ted will reveal the details in due time, but those who contributed parts or cash to the cause received a newsletter that explained why he had to drop from 402 to 375 inches.

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

WAY to go Ted, Harry and Jerry !!!!!!!!!!

-Gary Burnette-

Great Show. Congratulations to all.

       A  L  A  N   F  R  A  K  E  S   ~  Tulsa, OK    

congrats, fellow Texan!!

now is the time to replace "Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and ch______let"

with

"Football, Tex-Mex, Lone Star and Ford Y"

Mark

"God Bless Texas"location: Houston,TX

Thank You Ted! Even after a half century the wise know, scrubs suck and the Y-Block still rules.  A great accomplishment for the Ford camp.

Larry D

Winnipeg, MB Canada Eh!


'57 Fairlane 500 Club Victoria

'58 Custom 300 Tudor

'56 Crown Victoria

'61 Starliner Z Code

'51 Ford Victoria

OUTSTANDING !!!

You gotta have the right tools and know how to use 'em.

TC - Austin, Texas

Like John said, I'll wait and let Ted tell the whole story in his own time, but I will let out one amazing fact. A little over three weeks ago this engine was just a thought! I am sure that once you hear the complete story, you will see what I am talking about and the results are even more amazing.

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

Confirming my earlier guess here is Ted's comment to Bob Martin this morning

"The Y entry was also the only engine with oem iron heads.  Everything else was some form of aftermarket head." 

If you looked at the Pop rodding website you will have also noted that the other engines all had exotic intakes most with multiple carbs.  The score will not place the Y very high in the standings,  but Ted noted  that his dyno runs in Texas were quite a bit higher. 

Boy is this going to be fuel for the hot stove league this winter!!

 

Doug T

The Highlands, Louisville, Ky.

I did get to hear the motor make a pull, although I was at least a quarter mile away I was able to hear it scream!  I know they make three pulls and average the numbers for a final score, but on each pull is horsepower and torque averaged from 3000-7000r.p.m which would explain the lower numbers? If so, I'm, curious to hear peak numbers. Congrats on a sucsessful  showing! -Andrew

1959 and 1960 f-100sAkron OH

all good in my book.

i'm waiting to hear the story first hand.



the over-under design of the Y head is definitely different.


This ain't no L-Kamino!

Great Job Ted, Jerry and Harry were in a boat, full of engines, and they had to throw the scrubs out to stay afloat. Great anchors.

One question? is there somewhere where all the entries and finishing positions are posted?

55 Vicky & customline

58 Rack Dump, 55 F350 yard truck, 57 F100

59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

Billy,

    There's a link in one of the first posts. It's Popular Hot Rod, Engine Master's Challange...

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Congratulations Ted, Harry and Jerry. Outstanding effort. I'll bet the 3 of you had a heck of a time there. Exciting and nerve racking at the same time. Just getting there and making 3 clean runs is an acomplishment. Most years there are a few no-shows and DNF's. I'll bet the Magazine guys were a little surprized to see a Y-Block make well over 400hp.

I am a little puzzled by the discrepancy of your dyno and the test dyno. Both DTS brand but your score was about 90 points lower than you expected from your testing as I understand it.

Maybe by the next time we will have some better heads. Plan to start writing program next week. Planned to start last weekend but machine center developed a noisy axis. Just tracked it down today. Factory over tightened the thrust bearing.

http://ford-y-block.com 

20 miles east of San Diego, 20 miles north of Mexico

All the competitors were bitching that the dyno's were much stingier than their testing indicated.. Kaase was down about 100 hp on one of his engines.. Ted was down about 30 hp from his own dyno

That hurt the numbers from everyone, but I guess as long as it was consistent, it wouldn't affect the outcome.

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart)