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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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I’ve had several persons express an interest in seeing the Y run at the EMC competition in Lima, Ohio so here’s my schedule. Have the engine at Lima, Ohio on Tuesday Oct 6th, 2009 Set up the engine on the dyno cart starting at 1PM Wednesday Oct 7th, 2009. Run the Y at 9AM-11AM Thursday Oct 8th, 2009. Friday is the day that the top six get to run their engines again for ‘Top Dog’ honors.
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By Glen Henderson - 15 Years Ago
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Good luck Ted, wish I could be there! Keep us posted and take lots of pictures.
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By yehaabill - 15 Years Ago
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Ted: All the best to YOU and hopefully showing the rest,of the performance community, the "Y" ain't dead yet..... Bill
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By LordMrFord - 15 Years Ago
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Good luck!
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By BFOOTER03 - 15 Years Ago
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Good luck Ted.
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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I think they'll be in awe when they see that we can be competitive with 50 year old technology. They will fear the potential that lurks with aftermarket development.
Good luck!
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By John F - 15 Years Ago
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Good luck Ted.
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By speedpro56 - 15 Years Ago
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Good Luck Ted, We're ALL behind you championing our Favorite engine in every respect!!!!!!!!!
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By John Mummert - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, from our conversations it sounds like you're well prepared. Good luck!
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By 46yblock - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, even though you are well seasoned in the performance scene, are you getting nervous, like excited  !Best of luck!!!
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By mr4speedford - 15 Years Ago
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I'm going to try and make it down to the dyno room on my 30min break from class on that thursday. If you need anything while in town let me know. Best of luck, -Andrew
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By JJ - 15 Years Ago
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God luck! Top Dog Ted has a nice ring to it - JJ
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By 57FordPU - 15 Years Ago
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Good luck Ted, you are our fearless leader...............
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Guys. Thanks for the accolades. With the engine now put back to the parameters that has produced the best results up until now, I’ll be making just a few checkout pulls on the EMC engine today and then it comes off the dyno to get readied for the trip to Ohio. There’s a very good chance the Y will be the only engine there with oem iron heads. Although I don’t see this engine being anywhere near the top of the list as far as the scoring goes, I still plan on this engine to at least make a good showing. A series of solid dyno pulls at the EMC competition will at least show what one of these vintage engines is capable of and still being on 91 octane pump fuel. Andrew. Be sure to drop by and say Hi.
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By Daniel Jessup - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, our thoughts and prayers are with you! Go get 'em!
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By texasmark1 - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, best of luck from a fellow Texan! Mark
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By MS 57 Blackbird - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, You have a lot of folks pulling for you and anticipating the reactions that your Y is sure to receive from folks that will be unsuspecting of what your going to show them!! Good Luck, Larry Boyer Pelahatchie, MS - 57 Bird
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By Ketterbros - 15 Years Ago
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Ted.. Like all the rest of the Y block community, Dave and I wish all the luck, knowing that it will not be luck, but just plain work..
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By Nick Brann - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I can't say it any better than the other guys- yes we are definitely pulling for you. An exciting adventure, wish I could be there. Good luck! Nick Brann, K.C., MO
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By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
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As far as I'm concerned you, TED and the Yblock in this instance ARE already winners.
Congratulations on all your hard work and dedication to get into the selection.
You persevered and lobbied for all the mushroom lifter thing last year and "they" took notice.
I believe that more and more people are going to get interested in what yblockers have and want to learn more about it.
It's a good thing I already have a couple of them, after this, demand may go up and the price. 
Go get 'em, Ted.
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By Tom Compton - 15 Years Ago
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CHARGE!
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By GREENBIRD56 - 15 Years Ago
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Good Luck, Ted - I'm sure by now luck won't have much to do with it - must be dialed in!!! But luck might be just the thing to get an extra horse or two......
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By davis - 15 Years Ago
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ted,
KILLER!
man, just the exposure to all the big league magazines and exotic engine builders is going to create lots of attention.
sometimes a kick out of the ordinary B/B chevy is all it takes.
if anybody can grab some video of the Y run, that would be great too!
(i'm also glad to see an FE team entered too)
GO FORD!!
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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Hmmmm!, I'll be working in Martinsburg, WV that week, its only 7.5 hrs away, How many spectators are allowed? Go get em Ted, best of luck! I can see the headlines now, "Terrible Ted takes engine masters by storm"
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By bloodyknucklehill - 15 Years Ago
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show em' what some good ol' vintage American Iron is capable of.. make a good video too, I'd love to see and hear it..
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Here’s a couple of pics of the EMC engine, one on the dyno and the other with it sitting in the floor yesterday getting it ready to package up for transport. After this competition is done, I’ll post some of the dyno info which is surprising good considering the engine is 10.1:1CR and has very good idling characteristics. Crossing my fingers that the results I had on my dyno can be duplicated or even bettered on the dynos at the University of Northwestern Ohio. 
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By Moz - 15 Years Ago
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give em hell ted !!!!
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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Cool! Looks like the Mummert intake is definitely good for performance. What's the deal with the water pump? You running the electric at the competition?
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By Glen Henderson - 15 Years Ago
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Check out the rear sump oilpan!
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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lima's not that far, need help?
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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pegleg (10/3/2009)
lima's not that far, need help?Frank. The crew slots have already been filled but the Y is being well represented with both Harry Hutten and Jerry Christenson being a part of the crew. I don’t see why you couldn’t come up and watch though.
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By yehaabill - 15 Years Ago
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Frank: Go on up there! You can "warn" the crowd to "back off" when Ted hits the button.... Jokes aside, go give'em a few cheers, I know most on this site would love to be there. Bill
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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When and where in Lima? Is it OK to pick on Jerry?
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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While I'm thinking about it, Bring jets. It's going to be colder than Texas and the density altitude will be less than home.
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By paul f - 15 Years Ago
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Team Eaton, Have a successful week! Rooting for you from So. Cal. Paul F
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By John Mummert - 15 Years Ago
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Not to hijack this thread but: Good to see you on the forum Paul. Haven't heard from you lately.
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By Fordy Guy - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, be sure and record the dyno runs on both video and audio. Utube awaits you!!!! Bud
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By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, tell us more about that electric water pump assembly. We might want similar one to our dragster. What brand and what modifications needed?
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By Glen Henderson - 15 Years Ago
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Seppo: It maybe a day or two before Ted can reply, so I'll tell you what I know about the waterpump. It's a bigblock scrub pump with a machined adapter for the Y timing cover. I asked him the same thing a few months back. I don't know if he has plans to market it or not, but it looks cool. If you look on Ted's web site there are other pictures.
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By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
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Thanks Glen. I have no hurry. Soon there will be 40 inches of snow on the ground and we all fall into winter sleep and we won't wake up until spring arrives  Hope I will see dreams about electrical water pumps and at least thousand horses of power .
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By davis - 15 Years Ago
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it's good to see ford in 5 of the 8 top spots so far.
i was surprised to see olds in #4 spot.
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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Here's a link to the results so far
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/challenge/0901em_2009_engine_masters_challenge/index.html
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By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
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Thanks for the link Charlie.
I didn't know it was going to be updated daily as it happens! COOL!
What's everyone else up to thursday at 9am?? I'm starting to get nervous and I'm not even there.
Go Ted!
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By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
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Today is the day! Go get em Ted! Chuck in NH
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By 46yblock - 15 Years Ago
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Dove's lack of luck is too bad. It would have been nice to see what the famous "Cammer" produced. There may not be another chance, like with the Y. Go Ted!
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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It looks like they might be listing the top 8 only on that link. Let's hope a Y shows up!
It should be running right now.
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By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
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yep, I think I hear the distinctive rumble.
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By Hollow Head - 15 Years Ago
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These are the comments from EMC crew. Well done Ted. Now we just have to wait and see all the rest results to see how high Ted will end up at ranking. 9:00 - Team #6 Ted Eaton Specialty & Balancing/Ford Ted Eaton of Ted Eaton Specialty and Balancing has a fondness for the Y-block Ford. These engines were very advanced for their time, and achieved notoriety in Nascar and other racing venues in the late fifties. Ted sought to update the performance of one of these classic engines, while keeping a traditional look. The 375-cubic inch engine performed well, easily making over 400 horsepower. While the combination definitely came to the competition as an underdog, it was a treat to be able to see what one of these engines can do. |
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| Pull # | 1 | 2 | 3 | Avg | | Torque | 379.6 | 377 | 377.5 | 378 | | Horsepower | 354.9 | 352.1 | 352.4 | 353.1 | | Final Score - 1,949.8@ 375 CI |
I think the highest score at the moment is 2.5 and something...
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By yfreak57 - 15 Years Ago
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Highest score is now 2646 to Jon Kaases second team (Jon Kaase Racing (Almost Kaase)/Ford). 403 Cleveland.
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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Well, we're not last! A 426 Chrysler got 1864.6 and there are a few that did not finish.
And peaking over 400hp on pump gas, something none of the mainstream magazines have done! That's sure to get some attention.
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By Glen Henderson - 15 Years Ago
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Got this off the site. 
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By yehaabill - 15 Years Ago
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Y-Guys: Ted sure has "aged" in the last month!!!!!!! Ok, OK, everyone knows its Jerry(wonder who let him in?) They did great for all the "hi-tech" modern technology they were up against! Very proud of you guys............. Bill
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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Fantastic. A creditable showing with IRON 50 Year old heads !! Has anybody seen any 50's (or 60's or 70's or 80's Scrubs with factory heads there. i don't think so! Congratulations to Ted, Jerry and Harry. You guys are the MAN (or Men)!! with this, Bob Lindsay and John Feistritzer any remaining questions about Ford Y Blocks performance has been answered.
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By Ketterbros - 15 Years Ago
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Get the man a can of Greecian Formula....Joke.. It was Spring Thaw that I saw Ted last, and he was rushed there chasing his bonnet... He and all the rest deserve all the praise that we as a Y commuity can give.. and I as one of the Greatest group of auto nuts do... Congrates Crew..
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By Doug T - 15 Years Ago
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A great effort by everyone involved especially Ted. The Y must be near the top of the FACTORY IRON Head brigade, it might even be a brigade of one!! The Y is clearly the BEST of 1956 technology!!
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By Jim - 15 Years Ago
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And guys, I am one lucky y-blocker! I only live a bit over an hour from Ted and can run down to Doc Eaton's even after work in the afternoon!
Ted had two very good people in his tech crew. Harry and Jerry are both proven winners, I just wonder how many "scrub" jokes Jerry made!!!??? Not shabby results at all for old iron heads!
Guess I will have to make a run down to Ted's after he gets back to get all the juicy details!
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By PF Arcand - 15 Years Ago
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Question? Ted built a 375 cu. in Y-Block? How did he do that?
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 15 Years Ago
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Paul: I'm sure Ted will reveal the details in due time, but those who contributed parts or cash to the cause received a newsletter that explained why he had to drop from 402 to 375 inches.
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By speedpro56 - 15 Years Ago
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WAY to go Ted, Harry and Jerry !!!!!!!!!!
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By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
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Great Show. Congratulations to all.
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By texasmark1 - 15 Years Ago
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congrats, fellow Texan!! now is the time to replace "Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and ch______let" with "Football, Tex-Mex, Lone Star and Ford Y" Mark
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By Larry D - 15 Years Ago
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Thank You Ted! Even after a half century the wise know, scrubs suck and the Y-Block still rules. A great accomplishment for the Ford camp.
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By Tom Compton - 15 Years Ago
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OUTSTANDING !!!
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By Glen Henderson - 15 Years Ago
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Like John said, I'll wait and let Ted tell the whole story in his own time, but I will let out one amazing fact. A little over three weeks ago this engine was just a thought! I am sure that once you hear the complete story, you will see what I am talking about and the results are even more amazing.
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By Doug T - 15 Years Ago
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Confirming my earlier guess here is Ted's comment to Bob Martin this morning "The Y entry was also the only engine with oem iron heads. Everything else was some form of aftermarket head." If you looked at the Pop rodding website you will have also noted that the other engines all had exotic intakes most with multiple carbs. The score will not place the Y very high in the standings, but Ted noted that his dyno runs in Texas were quite a bit higher. Boy is this going to be fuel for the hot stove league this winter!!
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By mr4speedford - 15 Years Ago
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I did get to hear the motor make a pull, although I was at least a quarter mile away I was able to hear it scream! I know they make three pulls and average the numbers for a final score, but on each pull is horsepower and torque averaged from 3000-7000r.p.m which would explain the lower numbers? If so, I'm, curious to hear peak numbers. Congrats on a sucsessful showing! -Andrew
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By davis - 15 Years Ago
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all good in my book.
i'm waiting to hear the story first hand.
the over-under design of the Y head is definitely different.
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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Great Job Ted, Jerry and Harry were in a boat, full of engines, and they had to throw the scrubs out to stay afloat. Great anchors. One question? is there somewhere where all the entries and finishing positions are posted?
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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Billy, There's a link in one of the first posts. It's Popular Hot Rod, Engine Master's Challange...
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By John Mummert - 15 Years Ago
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Congratulations Ted, Harry and Jerry. Outstanding effort. I'll bet the 3 of you had a heck of a time there. Exciting and nerve racking at the same time. Just getting there and making 3 clean runs is an acomplishment. Most years there are a few no-shows and DNF's. I'll bet the Magazine guys were a little surprized to see a Y-Block make well over 400hp. I am a little puzzled by the discrepancy of your dyno and the test dyno. Both DTS brand but your score was about 90 points lower than you expected from your testing as I understand it. Maybe by the next time we will have some better heads. Plan to start writing program next week. Planned to start last weekend but machine center developed a noisy axis. Just tracked it down today. Factory over tightened the thrust bearing.
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By RB - 15 Years Ago
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All the competitors were bitching that the dyno's were much stingier than their testing indicated.. Kaase was down about 100 hp on one of his engines.. Ted was down about 30 hp from his own dyno
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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That hurt the numbers from everyone, but I guess as long as it was consistent, it wouldn't affect the outcome.
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