DAN,  THE GENTILE MAN YOU WERE TALKING TO AT CARLISIE ,IS MY OLD SWAP MEET PARTNER. CY KUBISTA FROM MINN. CY WAS A PAXTON DEALER IN 1955 AND AND A FORD DEALER TECH. THAT WORKED THE MINN. STATE POLICE PURSUTE CARS. BOTH E&F SERIES. CY HAS ALWAYS LOVED THE Y-BLOCKS. BUT MAINLY THE LINCOLN 368. HE WON THE 67 I.S.C.A. SHOW CAR CHAMPIONSHIP WITH A T-BUCKET 368 Y-BLOCK 8 STORMBURGS AND TWIN PAXTON SUPERCHARGERS. HE HELD A N.H.R.A. NATIONAL RECORD WITH A 40 FORD COUPE, 368 Y-BLOCK HILBORN INJECTION. HE ALSO WAS THE RUNNER UP AT THE 57 NATIONALS IN SUPER STOCK AT OKLAHOMA CITY. CY DROVE A BILL STROPE 57 MERCURY 368 Y-BLOCK WITH TWO-FOURS HE WAS AHEAD IN THE LAST PASS,WHEN A FUEL PUMP SPRING BROKE , HE GOT NOSED OUT BY A 57 SCRUB. CY IS A GREAT GUY TO TALK TO ABOUT THE OLD DAYS OF RACING Y-BLOCKS. THANKS TOM DRUMMOND MID WEST DIRECTOR 1957 FORD INTERNATIONAL

  JUST A MIDNIGHT CRUISE DOWN THUNDER ROAD!!! TOM DRUMMOND MIDWEST DIRECTOR 57 FORD INTERNATIONAL

How about a '57 Ford 2 dr wagon with a shipping weight of 3600 lbs?  With a 300 horse engine it falls exactly at 12.0000 lbs/cu. in.  That's why Gordon Payne (and others) used them, besides they had a little more weight in the rear than a Custom 2 door.

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

Lets not forget how the weight breaks just happend to fall for some scrub engine body configurations. To the third decimal point.

     Note here, NHRA refactored those cars too. I think 345 was the original re-factored rating.

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

I had a factory lightened 69 Fairlane Cobra 428SCJ. 4 speed top loader and a 4:30 Detroit locker rear end. It was quick! The local drag strip kept moving me around to different classes, both up and down, depending on where the big scrub mobiles were. I always seemed to be in a class where the local super scrubs weren't. One week I would be with the 390 Fairlane's, the next with the Hemi's! I couldn't tell if their scales kept changing or their rule book! Still managed to smoke a few of them!

Y's guys rule!
Looking for McCullouch VS57 brackets and parts. Also looking for 28 Chrysler series 72 parts. And early Hemi parts.

MoonShadow, 292 w/McCulloch, 28 Chrysler Roadster, 354 Hemi)
Manchester, New Hampshire

While we're all bashing the rules makers and gm, let's not forget the '68 Mustang 428 Cobra Jet that Ford slipped in on them.  Dominated their classes big time.  Rated it at a puny 335 horses, even with the ram air hood.

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

I've always known that NHRA and NASCAR have written their rules to pacify GM,particularly Chevy.I'm not into drag racing but until recently I've been into stock cars all my life and I know that NASCAR has been biased toward GM since 1957.Every time Ford or Chrysler starts winning too many races we get a rule change.Chevy can win 70-80 percent of the races and NASCAR doesn't change a thing.NASCAR has never outlawed a GM engine,but they have,in the past,banned engines from both Ford and Chrysler.

 

Paul,

Boonville,MO

Also had another uh.......stock, Pontiac Catalina, 9 passenger wagon, 4 speed 421 SD (405 hp) that I ran in stock. Never saw too many of those on the showroom floor.

      The car was originally a 389 auto car, converted to the Sd combo and I bought it used. I broke a crank in half at York during a launch. Pontiac wanted $590 something dollars for a new crank and a couple of rods. I was making $600 a month as an Industrial Engineer. That was the end of that adventure.

      Point is, NHRA accepted the car as stock. It was one of NONE ever built by Pontiac. Had it been a Ford, or Mopar I'd have had to run Gas or Modified Production, NHRA wouldn't have bought the stock thing.   

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

Cereal Killer:

Of course it was stock.  I'm sure a lot of us, ummm, older gearheads can remember going to the local scrub dealer and looking at several fuel injected, 4 speed, 9 passenger wagons on the lot, in a variety of colors in '57.  At the time we were probably looking for the injected, hydromatic sedan deliveries, they must have been in another lot somewhere.

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

I was at the Street Rod Nationals at York, PA and one of the swap meet vendors had what he said was a 57 blower.

54 Victoria 312;  48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312
Forever Ford
Midland Park, NJ