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I have several sets of the front suspension for 57 Premiere's.  I would think that they should be the same as yours.  I can get some pictures of them for you tomorrow.  

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Thanks mjs. I had my mechanic put it together the way it was before I tore it apart and am reasonably sure it's correct but would still like to see yours. It would be nice to know someone with a similar car I the event I would have another question. That was a joke. I know I will have hundreds of questions when I start putting this car back together. Currently I have the engine at the shop getting new rod, cam and main bearings installed. The cylinders were bored out .040 over, new pistons made( for $1050). New exhaust valve seats and hydraulic lifters installed. The rest of the heads look and mic out good. Since the engine is out I cleaned up the engine bay and painted and undercoated everything. put in new shocks, the upper and lower bushings. Ball joints are still fine.
Interior was almost totally gone. I mean shot, still there except for the upholstery. Removed and threw out carpets. No rust or rot on floor.
Engine should be back next week but there's still a lot of work. Just trying to figure out how to check out the pumps, master cylinder, generator, ac compressor etc, will get me in a tizzy.
I luckily have a four year project time for the car, so not rushed at all.
Oh yeah. Changing paint color from that light green with dark green roof to a yellow with dark green roof. Luckily all the chrome and stainless is present.

Brad
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B-rad (12/15/2022)


I meant the other side of the shaft has no stops. Both upper and lower arms have the large washers. I forget where I got the bushings but they were in plastic bags with the correct part not embers printed on the bags.
I took a short video of the assemblies before I tore it apart and it shows the way I did the green assembly so I think I have it right. If only the manual I'll showed which end has the stops, I wouldn't have had this issue.


OK ...

From what I see, the arms are not assembled correctly and it seems with the wrong/missing parts.

Print this ILL out so you can refer back to it easily -

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The front and rear bushings are different. If you look at the rear bushing (3087 for 1954) you will see it is encapsulated between two washers (3091 and 3090). I believe the ears are placed at the rear bushing to trap the 3087 bushing. The front bushing is retained by the step on the arm  and outside washer.

EDIT - INCORRECT TERM - SHOULD READ SHAFT


 
The bushings themselves appear to have bent flanges, indicating the BFH method of install.

When assembled (control arms (upper and lower) did you check for free movement of the arms before inserting the springs (sans stabilizer bar)?

Now this is with the belief what you took off was correct assembly with the correct OEM and/or service parts. There are quality service parts and CHI-COM junk.

That's what I am seeing sitting here in W(BY GOD)V.







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B-rad (12/16/2022)
Thanks mjs. I had my mechanic put it together the way it was before I tore it apart and am reasonably sure it's correct but would still like to see yours. It would be nice to know someone with a similar car I the event I would have another question. That was a joke. I know I will have hundreds of questions when I start putting this car back together. Currently I have the engine at the shop getting new rod, cam and main bearings installed. The cylinders were bored out .040 over, new pistons made( for $1050). New exhaust valve seats and hydraulic lifters installed. The rest of the heads look and mic out good. Since the engine is out I cleaned up the engine bay and painted and undercoated everything. put in new shocks, the upper and lower bushings. Ball joints are still fine.
Interior was almost totally gone. I mean shot, still there except for the upholstery. Removed and threw out carpets. No rust or rot on floor.
Engine should be back next week but there's still a lot of work. Just trying to figure out how to check out the pumps, master cylinder, generator, ac compressor etc, will get me in a tizzy.
I luckily have a four year project time for the car, so not rushed at all.
Oh yeah. Changing paint color from that light green with dark green roof to a yellow with dark green roof. Luckily all the chrome and stainless is present.


Curious: While I’m aware that those doing a frame-off resto usually replace the control arm bushings, I’m still not sure what symptoms might signal the necessity of replacement in an unrestored driver?  Is the appearance of hardened/cracked rubber always synonymous with handling/ride difficulties?

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Yeah, the rubber on all the bushings were destroyed from the Arizona heat for so many years of sitting. I think I'm going to be replacing a lot of rubber on this rebuild.

Brad
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Here is a picture of the passenger side suspension.  As you can see the end with the large washer is on the back end.  At one time I had 5 57 Premiere's and a 56.  Two of them I cannibalized for parts and I cut the front frame sections to save the suspensions.  This is a picture of one of them.  

Lincolns are kind of like pretzels.  You can never have just one. 

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DANIEL TINDER (12/16/2022)

Curious: While I’m aware that those doing a frame-off resto usually replace the control arm bushings, I’m still not sure what symptoms might signal the necessity of replacement in an unrestored driver?  Is the appearance of hardened/cracked rubber always synonymous with handling/ride difficulties?



When the rubber in the bushings deteriorates it allows the upper control arm to float.  The movement it would allow would cause constant changes in the the camber/caster/toe and result in a severe wander when driven.  It would most likely also cause a constant clunking noise when going down the road.  Definitely not a safe situation.  

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Can you tell me which is the front of the car, top or bottom of pic. Does either end of the shaft have the stops and if so, which end? I can't zoom in on the pics and it's hard to tell. Thanks

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B-rad (12/17/2022)
Can you tell me which is the front of the car, top or bottom of pic. Does either end of the shaft have the stops and if so, which end? I can't zoom in on the pics and it's hard to tell. Thanks

MJS does say that the picture of the suspension is the right side.  That makes the top of the picture pointing to the rear of the car and the bottom of the picture being the front.



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Ted is correct.  I rotated it so the angle looks more natural. The left will be the back and the right would be the front of the car.


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