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Thinking about a T5...What do I need?

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Right now, I've got a '59 292 in my '30 Model A Coupe.  The transmission is a 3 speed toploader from the early '60s (non-synchro'd reverse).  I THINK it's the wide ratio transmission because there seems to be a big difference between 2nd and 3rd.
The rear is a Dana 41 with 4.27:1 gearing.  The tires are 29.5" tall.

On the highway it's spinning at 3200 or so at 65 mph.  In Second Gear, at around 30 mph in town it's also spinning close to 3000.  

Anyway...I originally thought about getting a 9" rear with more reasonable gearing in it, but then it may not be as fun.  Doing the math with a T-5, with two extra gears, and one of them an OD, I think it would be a better option.  

1.  What would I need to make this work?  Clutch Parts, adapters, etc.?  
2.  Anyone know how much further back my shifter would be coming from a toploader?
3.  Anything else that I'm overlooking?
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This thread is 19 pages long. But the first couple pages gets you started. Well worth reading and referring back to.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/tech-ultimate-t-5-article.171291/

I’ve got a WC T-5 behind a 320 stoker in my 55 bird, and a TKO 500 behind the 340 F code clone in my roadster. All the adapter parts came from Mummert, and they all went together fine. There’s some options now that weren’t available time (17-18 years ago) that I did mine. You’ll find that a John’s site . In an A, you’ll want the T5. The TKO was overkill in my 32, and a b….. to fit in.

http://www.ford-y-block.com/

Various models used different shifter locations, sometimes you can swap tailshafts and modify that. The HAMB article address it.

Different models had different torque ratings. That’s in the HAMB article. You’ll need to look at that in terms of your driving style and rear tires. A good 292 with wide tires will hurt a low torque model if you spend a lot of time hammering it.

The big deal is the gear ratios. With a 4.27 rear, even with tall tires, you don’t need the deep first gears, and some are really deep. You’ll probably want a taller 5th. Both mine have 2.9? 1st, and 0.8 5th. In both cases I should have used a little deeper (bigger number) 1st and the 0.68 or so 5th. Yblock have pretty good torque curves, and I didn’t account for that (and mine are stroker motors). But the close ratios are fun to play around with.

It’s very doable, will be a great combination, and all the problems can be pretty easily solved. Just some research and home work, and a clear idea of where you want to end up.



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You will need a  T-5 from a 87-93 Fox mustang, or buy a world class T-5Z, 292 car bell housing, Mummert adapter, clutch disc for T-5 spline 11", C-4 transmission yoke for the drive shaft, 57-59 Fairlane speedometer cable, custom drive shaft, '66 289 C-4 transmission mount, pilot bushing, throw out bearing.  You can use the stock Ford flywheel, pressure plate.  I used a Hurst Competition plus shifter for Corvette/Impala but you can search the site for all the variable shifters and their handles.  Joe-JDC

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With the T5s 2.95/3.35 1st gear, you won't be in first very long/w 4.27 gears. Depending on their axle ratio, some Fox Body Mustang drag racers launched in 2nd gear. 1982 5.0 Mustangs were equipped with a 4-speed transmission, but 4th was OD. I'm sure it had a taller 1st than the T5. I don't know the nomenclature for that transmission or it's torque rating, but it might better suit you (if you can find one). I wouldn't consider any T5 that wasn't designed for a V8. 

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Forum Post Thinking about a T5...What do I need? By Deyomatic ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post This thread is 19 pages long. But the first couple pages gets you... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post You will need a T-5 from a 87-93 Fox mustang, or buy a world class... By Joe-JDC ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post With the T5s 2.95/3.35 1st gear, you won't be in first very long/w... By 55blacktie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'll have to check out that HAMB post. Thanks. It's bookmarked now.... By Deyomatic ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The transmission used in the 1982 Mustang 5.0 is the SROD. Ford also... By 55blacktie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The strongest T5's are from the late 80's early 90's 5.0 Mustangs. I... By FORD DEARBORN ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The vintage mustang link 55blacktie posted is well worth reading. I... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for all of the continued information... I am thinking that if I... By Deyomatic ( 3 Years Ago )
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