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OVERDRIVE PROBLEMS (CONTINUED)

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Unfortunately,  my overdrive problems continue.  Before I was able to get the O.D. solenoid installed, I bench tested the replacement with a 6 volt battery and it seemed to work fine.  I installed it and road tested the car repeatedly but the overdrive would not engage even at 50-60 MPH when I would back off of the accelerator.  I printed the Borg Warner O.D. Manual from the Internet and went through the tests of the electrical components still installed in the car.  The relay tested good and the solenoid seemed to be O.K. at first but after repeatedly getting it to click it started making a buzzing or throbbing noise.  I got under the car and took the solenoid cover off to check the points.   I grounded the governor wire to activate the solenoid with the ignition on so I could watch what was going on  inside the solenoid.  I saw arcing between the points and the buzzing noise was caused by the plunger trying but failing to fully extend.  There was some oil inside the solenoid which I cleaned out and I cleaned the points with some fine sandpaper.  I left the cover off and road tested the car again but the O.D. still did not engage.  Even worse, the speedometer stopped working on this test drive so the nylon speedo driven gear probably stripped out for reasons unknown.  Are the points inside the solenoid supposed to open and close when power is applied and then removed?  Watching them with the cover off the points stay closed and the plunger now appears not to be fully extending.  Also, I have not tested my governor and I do have two replacements (condition unknown).  I see that the governor can be tested with an ohm meter by spinning the gear on the wire wheel of a bench grinder.  I have a multi-meter but I don't know how to test ohms.  Can someone explain what to set the meter on and what to look for as far as a result on the meter?   Any other suggestions would be great.  Alan

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Forum Post OVERDRIVE PROBLEMS (CONTINUED) By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, I'll take a stab at this. I think your test of grounding the... By FORD DEARBORN ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The solenoid contains 2 sets of points, the high amperage pull-in... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Clean the points on the RELAY. Test with Ohm meter to be sure they are... By Lord Gaga ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have been down this road numerous times with my TBird. I test my... By Florida_Phil ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post A sidenote: I discovered that when bench testing a solenoid, some that... By DANIEL TINDER ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I was successful in getting my original solenoid to work properly (at... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post It’s been years, but IIRC that lever has to be all the way back. I... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Most O/D problems turn out to be wiring issues. Go back and check all... By Florida_Phil ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Do you have engine braking when you let off the gas? If the shift... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Well, it looks like I am running out of options on this non-working... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The 2 terminals on the solenoid should be marked "4" and "6". The #4... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post My solenoid doesn't have terminals, instead it has two wires exiting... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]alanfreeman (6/15/2022)[/b][hr] My solenoid doesn't have... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks Dobie. I will try the "experiment" and post the result. By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, I'm assuming you are running a 6 volt system. Are you sure your... By FORD DEARBORN ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yes, it is a 6 volt solenoid. By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Still no overdrive. I connected a hot wire directly from the battery... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The only easy thing I can think of is to check the adjustment of the... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I didn’t see where there was confirmation that the car is... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Dobie....yes the shift lever is back as far as it will go against the... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I read 23b, and it doesn’t add up to me. That would be about the same... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I just went through this a couple of days ago. If you find that, with... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....I removed the cable from the shift lever to check for free... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The solenoid should energize at about 27 mph and de-energize at about... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, that sounds about right. The spring should push the lever most... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....when I rigged up a switch to the solenoid in the car for the... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I only use a manual switch and if I forget to switch it off it locks... By 57RancheroJim ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, I believe what you and Ranchero Jim describe would happen any... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post This is just a question as I try to keep up. I now understand the... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Miker, when the rear transmission shift fork is moved into reverse... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post peeet, I get that. But If the rail is properly in place and working... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....as you suggested, I disconnected the O.D. cable to test the... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Miker, when I am using the term “locked up” I am referring to the... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....I have a feeling that my problem is going to come down to... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post It is looking more and more like my transmission is going to have to... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, after reviewing the information again, I continue to believe... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post peeeot, thanks. I knew the lock out was there, but never really... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Miker, I’m not 100% on that explanation. The thing I’m not clear... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The passage of a lot of years makes things a bit fuzzy. But when I... By miker ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Here’s a possibility, if your sun and planetary gears are chewed up,... By pintoplumber ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Pintoplumber....you may be right but anyway you look at my problem... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....I did one final test to confirm that all of the electrical... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, it definitely sounds like the controls are working like they... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....No tachometer, but I parked the car on a slight downward... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Very interesting! So, previously you indicated that you had engine... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot......I will take the car out tomorrow to verify that there is... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Clutchless shifting is possible when the OD is enabled but not... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post My experience with clutchless shifting matches Dobie’s. 1-2 is easier... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Don't ask me how or why but the OD is now working (sort of). First,... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Try swapping solenoids with the convertible. Oil, low current, etc.... By DANIEL TINDER ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, I’m glad to hear you have been able to get overdrive!... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Peeeot....I don't have a tachometer but I would estimate the idle... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Alan, I asked about the idle speed because for a while my car was... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I am using STP 80-90 weight gear oil. By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hmmm, probably the wrong stuff. STP says it's for axles and... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post I agree with Dobie, GL-5 hypoid gear oil is not recommended for the... By peeeot ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Sometime in the past I read not to use synthetic oils, which GL5 are... By 57RancheroJim ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Gl-5 does not indicate synthetic and most modern GL-5 is safe with... By charliemccraney ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Dobie.....I checked the Tractor Supply Website but I don't see any... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Wrong nomenclature. It's Ford Tractor Transmission Fluid:... By Dobie ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post THANKS!! By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]charliemccraney (7/1/2022)[/b][hr] Gl-5 does not... By 57RancheroJim ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post Here are a couple examples. There are many more. Check out... By charliemccraney ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post When I first installed this OD transmission it leaked real badly. The... By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]charliemccraney (7/2/2022)[/b][hr] Here are a couple... By 57RancheroJim ( 3 Years Ago )
Forum Post The STP 80-90 weight that I was using is GL5 but is not synthetic. By alanfreeman ( 3 Years Ago )


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