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What master cylinder to use on '55 Thunderbird with disc brake conversion?

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Wilwood says to use the round stock master cylinder and remove the residual pressure valve.  That prevents the brakes from holding pressure.  So, I may go that route first.  They do not recommend a proportioning valve be installed.  Joe-JDC

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Wilwood says to use the round stock master cylinder and remove the residual pressure valve.  That prevents the brakes from holding pressure.  So, I may go that route first.  They do not recommend a proportioning valve be installed.  Joe-JDC     


You need to stay away from WILDWOOD TECH if you were told this.

With all of your credentials you must have theory/tech literature on how a disc/drum brake system is designed, plumbed and operates.

You need a correct style dualing MC, plumbed with correct valving for the system, period.



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If Wilwood told you this, I'm sorry that I recommended you call them.  Front discs and rear drums require a residual pressure valve, but at different pressures for the front vs the rear.  And most likely a proportioning valve for the rear.

In a factory disc/drum setup, they usually use combination valve which does both functions.


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Front discs and rear drums require a residual pressure valve ...


Front disc does not require a RPV unless the MC is located under the caliper plane and that is a 2# to prevent fluid drain-back (gravity) to the MC.

A 10# residual valve in the disc circuit will cause pad drag.

That is what caused the front brakes to drag when backed out of the garage,

If you notice, these so-called brake kit suppliers all have the same song and dance and conflict with one another with tech advice. Some are outright dangerous.



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If Wilwood told you this, I'm sorry that I recommended you call them.


Not your fault. You would think a company as large and successful as WILDWOOD would have a knowledgeable TECH to advise as to how and why. And it is not only WILDWOOD.



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[quote]KULTULZ (11/11/2021)


You would think a company as large and successful as WILDWOOD would have a knowledgeable TECH to advise as to how and why.
Wilwood tech people and the sales dept. are worthless. I'll NEVER buy another one of their products  after wasting more that a month trying to get an out of true rotor issue resolved!

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Wilwood tech people and the sales dept. are worthless. I'll NEVER buy another one of their products  after wasting more that a month trying to get an out of true rotor issue resolved!


Well, I am at a disadvantage as I never had the money to go with high dollar store bought. My cars were more or less JUNKYARD DOGS. And I understand going that way if one is building a show car or resto-mod. But there is not much FOMOCO didn't offer to do the same thing. The trick was knowing what car to pull it off of.

And now much of the stuff is off-shore adding to the problem(s).

I recently was trying to cipher why the RPV was dropped (working on ABS SYSTEMS) and I had one well known brake kit company TECH tell me the weight of the fluid (gravity) keeps the wheel cylinder cups from cocking after brake release.



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