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Thunderbird distributor I.D. help

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Yes, I reworked the heads myself. Ported the BT version 5 with firing order on it.  The BT intakes are still available, but have had a price increase.  We did the windage tray modification to the EMC 303 Y, and now this 346 Y.  It is a 289 SBF windage tray.  I ordered the 351W studs for 1/2" mains, and Ted milled the mounting slots to the width of the Y mains,  a couple of cuts with a cut off wheel, and it fits quite well.  You will have to cut a small amount to clear the pick-up tube, but not a big issue.  Dip stick clears with no issues, either.  I kept the compression low on purpose so that it would be pump gas friendly.  I am glad you had a hard time determining what intake was on the engine, since painting it makes it look like the original Ford, I had another BT, but it doesn't have the firing order on it.  Joe-JDC

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Joe,
What intake manifold (can’t tell from photo)? Modified ‘B’, or Blue Thunder?  
BTW: Just wondering, are BTs for the ‘Y’ still available?

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Impressive! You must have done some serious port work on those 113 heads. How about that windage tray? You had a top-notch guy to work with. I'm envious.
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Summit 750VS, and it is too small for the engine.  Pulling 1.4" vacuum at 6000 rpm @ 402hp.  1" Super Sucker, which will be swapped for another type after a couple more dyno tests.  I have a fiberglass Ford bubble hood that I acquired from fellow forum member Gary B.  Hopefully that will allow me to try several different intakes in the future similar to the "Awfulhauser" dyno tests.  9.43:1 compression, iron 113 heads, 228* @ .050" on 111 LS, 346 cubic inches.  Intended for street cruising.  Ted and I took this from a bare block to dyno tested in two days.  I thoroughly enjoyed working with Ted again on a Y.  I am still recuperating from the long hours.  LOL.  http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/2d2f1a46-7cd8-4b77-99dd-a3c3.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/3fe655bb-64c1-40d3-897f-0f55.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/726ae82e-e68c-4fe4-b010-8346.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/447452f8-a3fd-4a14-ab5e-a228.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/073e089a-feeb-46a2-915a-3f91.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/f7ac9a45-dcb0-4ec8-afce-c750.jpgJoe-JDC

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Joe, what carburetor is on your engine? Will that spacer allow your air cleaner to clear the hood?
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Just installed the CRT in my 292 Y that will be going into my '55 Thunderbird.  Fired up just fine, no issues so far.  Looks nearly stock.  The cap is slightly taller due to the electronics inside but at least it looks like the Ford unit to most folks.  Joe-JDChttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/4156007f-b52a-46e6-8661-8550.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/8b72a8fc-fc0f-4a19-8a43-3a17.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/f793830d-3976-4f4b-b078-8994.jpg

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Interesting. It hadn’t occurred to me, but I should likely measure the gear location on the 50s NOS Mallory Dual Point that I bought on eBay before installing it.  Quality control & machining precision is something that probably couldn’t have been taken for granted 65 yrs. ago.


Finally got around to measuring it.  Looks like Mallory was also careful to install the gear higher than FoMoCo spec (better too high than too low?). Variation in block machining must have been common knowledge in the late 50s.


BTW/FYI: Was reminded recently that a gear installed too high on the shaft CAN be problematic also.  The pitch of the gears will pull the shaft down, eventually destroying the distributor housing, which is why people are warned not to use the distributor gasket included in FelPro kits.



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Ted said if I didn't care, to get the HEI style cap.  He said that the cap / electronics would  interchange with MSD pieces.  The TSP has the HEI style cap, the CRT has the standard type cap.  Ted said the TSP came with an adjustable vacuum advance pot.  I paid about $20 bucks more for the TSP than the CRT, EBAY prices.

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I compared TSP and CRT website descriptions and photos for the Thunderbird mechanical tach-drive distributor. TSP specifically states that their vacuum advance is non-adjustable. On the other hand, CRT confirmed that their vacuum advance is adjustable, and a small allen wrench can be seen in their photo. The CRT is $60 cheaper. 
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I haven't heard much about the insides.  Are parts available in case of a problem or, for guys like me, like to carry spare parts?


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