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DANIEL TINDER
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I noticed the new ROTELLA formular is on the shelf at my local Wallmart, but only the cheaper gallons (they turn over quicker). I loaded up the cart with old quarts, and will try to pick up some old gallons at the smaller auto stores.

The new label reads "Improved/Low-Pollution Formular". Naturally, there is no mention of what is missing or why the formular was changed. And, I'm sure if you contacted Shell you would never be able to get anyone to admit the truth!

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There is a synthetic version of Rotella T, but Idon't know about the zinc concentration.

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This Rots, The goverment is trying to have everybody get rid of their old stuff, all the towns are changing their ordanances and after everybody to remove old parts cars in their yards and now this. I am tired of a few people in office making all these laws for the rest of us, I think they need to go. with all the communication there is no need for them to live on our tax dollars. If everyone is emailed a new law proposal and responds via email with a yes or no. We need to go back to the popular vote, not the few people in goverments vote. The electoral college is a joke also. let everybody vote on every law via email or snail mail. I think we need to rally and everybody drive an antique to washington for a week and plug up the city. Didn't the farmers do it with their tractors? I know people who have made a living with old parts junk yard for 4 generations, now they face cleaning it up and a $500.00 a day fine if not. Millions of people make their living off dealing with old stuff and they are trying to take the bread and butter off the table. The insurance companies are also making it ridiculously hard to have more than one car.

Now that I have blew off let me get to my question, Lawn mowers still run a straight 30 weight non detegent, does this still have the zinc and will we have to resort back to this?

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59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

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What about those chevron Delo 400 HDMO, all the diesel oil at parts store are 15/40, but I am in texas so thats not a problem, the chevron delo have moly in it and from what i read on the oil board, it seem to protect the cam and lifter ok.



I tried Rotella T too, and I can tell no difference, as I have to adjust my valve clearance every week, must be those cheap chinese lifters i got...


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bruce56 (12/7/2006)


This is from the Crane Flat Tappet Break-in Procedure:

"Due to the EPA’s mandate for zinc removal from most motor oils, proper flat tappet camshaft break-in procedure is more critical than ever before. This is true for both hydraulic and mechanical flat tappet camshafts. As a point of interest, the most critical time in the life of a flat tappet camshaft is the first 20 minutes of “break-in” during which the bottoms of the tappets “mate-in” with the cam lobes.

The cam lobe and lifter base depends upon splash lubrication here.

There are some oils with additive packages that are better for camshaft “break-in”. These include: Shell Rotella T oil; Chevron Delo 400; and Mobil DELVAC oil. These oils are listed as diesel oils, but work great for flat camshaft “break-in”. We also recommend the use of Crane Cams # 99003-1 Break-in lube or GM “E.O.S.” (Engine Oil Supplement) Assembly Lubricant # 1052367. These should be poured over the lifters and camshaft prior to start up.

They are both diesel and gasoline rated engine oils (API Classification). Cam assembly lube (and there are debates concerning different manufacturers quality also) must be generously spread on the lobes and tappet faces. This is the only lubrication they will receive until the designed oil splash commences. Once lubed in this fashion, it is imperative the engine not be turned and is able to quick start to not lose the lubricant from the surfaces.

Synthetic is not to be used for break-in and as previously noted, may not be feasible for proper tappet rotation on the cam lobes if used as a long-time lubricant (synthetics also do not have the zinc additives as they have been removed also).

More Info On Lube-

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/camshaft-breakin-question-97574.html

Discussion On Cam Break-In Techniques-

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/new-cam-break-info-104086.html


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I bought a couple of gallons of Rotella today and noticed that the packaging label is a little different. There is a big splash of yellow on the label.  I'll have to put it next to some older Rotella I bought this summer and compare the packaging and label more closely I looked to see if they listed the additives and didn't find any type of listing.  FYI, it was $8.88 a gallon less 15% if you put it in their sale shopping bag.

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Here is what the levels are in (new) Feb. issue of Car Craft. Pretty good article.

Gary Ryan San Antonio.TX.

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From ROTELLA.com

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Shell Lubricants Announces Shell ROTELLA® T Meets API CJ-4 Standards
Jun 21, 2006

Shell Lubricants has announced the development of a new formulation of Shell ROTELLA® T motor oil.

The new formulation meets all of the specification criteria for the new API CJ-4 service category for diesel motor oil, as well as the requirements of the low emissions engines of leading diesel engine original equipment manufacturers (OEMs). In addition, Shell Rotella® T motor oil has already met the specification requirements for Caterpillar ECF-3, Detroit Diesel 93K218.

CJ-4 Online Resources
In addition Shell ROTELLA® T motor oil has gained Cummins CES 20081, Mack EO-O Premium Plus 2007 and Volvo VDS-4 approvals. The new API CJ-4 Shell ROTELLA®T motor oil can also provide performance benefits when used in engines built prior to 2007.

The API CJ-4 Shell ROTELLA®T motor oil will initially be available in bulk and drums beginning July 1st and in quart, gallon and pail packages beginning October 15th. Shell plans to continue to have its API CI-4 Plus Shell ROTELLA T motor oils available in bulk and drums beyond the introduction of the new API CJ-4 motor oils to meet customer demand.

""Shell ROTELLA®T motor oil, which meets or exceeds the API CJ-4 specification, will serve the diverse needs of fleets, owner/operators, industries and the light duty truck market, providing additional performance and benefits in wear reduction, soot handling and oxidation resistance. It also helps maximize the durability of Diesel Particulate Filters (DPFs)," says Dan Arcy, Technical Marketing Manager, for Shell Lubricants.

"With the successful development of this new formulation, Shell maintains its position as an industry leader actively involved in the development of new performance categories and developing motor oils that meet or exceed the latest specifications."

As part of the Shell portfolio of heavy-duty diesel motor oils, a new brand, Shell Rimula® Super will soon be introduced to meet the new API CJ-4 specification, specifically targeting the needs of fleet operators. More details on this introduction will be forthcoming.




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-A DISCUSSION of DIESEL OIL FROM ANOTHER FORUM-

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Now you have totaly confused me! Crazy (Not hard to do) Give me the one syllable answer! Don't through labels and numbers at me just list what oil to buy NOW before the change and what code to look for in the BAD oil! Rotella T sounds fine to me but? Cool Chuck in NH

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