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While the Tbird and sedan units are  slightly different, they function the same and are pretty much inter-changeable.  A lot of the Birds got a sedan unit when theirs went bad, most likely because there were more of them that were rebuilt.

For the purists, a  sedan unit can be converted into a TBird configuration easily and the parts are available from the parts people

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the boosters i had,both from 55birds where the same as cars except the mount bracket. simple how they work,they boost the had pressure with vacuum. the had portion has a brake cup that has a hole so if vacuum to booster is interrupted you still have some breaks
i rebuilt 1 for my 32ford and had problems getting parts,midland dealer hear claimed no longer avail. purchased som on treble bay. thewhol issue was a wast for very little  boost. sold the core and went to  proper booster.




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Not to hi-jack but how well does this style of power brake function?  Is it worth the cost for a retrofit?


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They work, given the times. So did the treadle-vac. You won’t confuse them with modern brake boosters, or the light effort I remember from Chysler products in the early 60’s. I’d say if you’re comfortable driving the car leave well enough alone. If it’s marginal (like some of us old guys with bad knees and shoulders) power brakes and steering are more attractive than they used to be.

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On my 55 Tbird I replaced the front drum brakes with a non power disk brake kit and eliminated the booster. That was like 15 years ago
and I have never felt a need to re install it. My opinion. Pete
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I do not expect to get the performance from the vintage design booster that you would get from a modern booster . But I am looking to install some period correct options . I have been assembling a power steering unit and I have been thinking about looking to put the brake booster in just to make the car more interesting. It's winter time and I am just tinkering getting ready for the spring car shows.
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How well a BOOSTER SYSTEM operates is measured by final line pressure with gauges.

No, the MIDLAND, TREADLE-VAC or KH Bellows Systems will not give the line pressure as well as a later style booster or HYDRO-BOOST but will be sufficient if only a driver or restoration (IMO).

Same as an early EATON PS PUMP. The output pressure is nowhere near that of a SAGINAW. You just figure what you need and go about it in that fashion. A dedicated or period correct appearance may not be as efficient as later tech will provide.



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There is no doubt about what you say , it's the same as if I were to pull out my yblock and install a 5 liter mustang engine I am sure it would be more dependable (not the my engine has ever let me down ) but it would not be period correct . How about cutting the dashboard to install a new style radio , you could but you won't. Lots of improvements can be made to a 64 year old car. But I like to install older stuff to make the car look "right"
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tell me what the difference is. i have 1 core left and would like to know how to id the sedan type.midland dealer told me overhaul kits are the same, just not available
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From what I have been told and I may be wrong , but the boosters are basically the sane the mounting brackets are different . But if someone know for sure please let us know. also I have found a few places that rebuild and repair the boosters it is not cheap but its the only game in town 
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Read This -

http://brakeboosterrebuild.com/about/

With less and less service parts being available, you may need people who can make/fabricate what is needed and have the experience to do it correctly.

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The short answer is NO! Save yourself the headache and disappointment! That’s because ALL of today’s brake kits are incomplete. The kits in the 80s could rebuild most of the brake boosters, but these cars are now 20-30 years older. The kits today don’t have enough parts, plus you now have the added issue of pitting which the kits can’t address. It takes expert to repair this issue. In addition, the kits have no parts for the vacuum piston other than a leather seal. We actually have the pistons manufactured. Not only that but we have 9 parts that are NOT available to the public anywhere else so that we can COMPLETELY rebuild any power brake booster we cover. Don’t make the mistake of using a partial kit when we can completely rebuilt your brake booster in 48 hours."

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/29772f03-0539-4a4f-abcd-9842.jpg

As a note, I imagine all types of kits were available at one time. Just like CARB KITS, some good, some not too good. It all depends on how much money you want to waste with either a quality repair or a negligible repair.



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