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Rusty: That looks very close to the "old stock" Plasti Kote #206 Ford engine Red.. Thanks for the information. I'll look into it..


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Rusty 85; Sorry, this is a late reply..That POR Red looks correct. Is there a specific mix # & is it somewhat heat resistant?


That's ok, I got mine from Amazon due to my free prime shipping didn't want to pay for the shipping from summit for just one quart can.

Part number for the POR 15 is 42098 and is called classic Ford red enamel.  I brushed painted mine with some cheap chip brushes I got from amazon.

Heat rating is up to 350*F and is guaranteed to not burn off.

Ive been running the car quite a bit and have to say it hasn't burned off on my heat cross over and I am running regular stock felpro intake gaskets with no restrictors on the cross over.  The driver side cross over is a tad dull looking but that happened as for some reason the holley 4000 on my 3rd running started pouring fuel out on the driverside.  Shut engine off pulled aircleaner and restarted to see where it was coming from and nothing didn't do it again.

Below are some fully assembled photos taken after a few heat cycles.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/431f35a3-98c3-425c-a7a2-0b0f.jpg

You can see the heat cross over is a tad dull looking just under the aircleaner.  That was caused by gas pouring out of the carb for some reason.

The water pump was painted years ago with duplicolor Ford/Chrysler engine red which I always felt was never right it didn't seem red enough then I came across the Por 15 when I was looking and saw it listed on Summit as Classic Ford Red.

This is before I got the heater valve replaced so this was before I ran the engine.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/3831ceff-4d99-4db1-950a-d761.jpg

Im real happy with the paint though.  If I ever strip the engine down for a repaint or a rebuild what ever happens I will be using Por 15 but I wont brush it on I am going to thin it down like it states you can and spray it on for better coverage.

Just remember to follow the directions it says you have to wait 3 days for it to cure before you run the engine.  You can handle the part in a few hours it will be dry just wont be fully cured for 3 days.


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Rusty 85; Sorry, this is a late reply..That POR Red looks correct. Is there a specific mix # & is it somewhat heat resistant?


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http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/ea027bbf-b924-4781-83a2-ed23.jpg

I tend to like to use original ads but its hit and miss as I highly doubt the fuel and vacuum lines were yellow so I don't think that orangy red shown is the correct color how ever.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b86e4e6f-79fa-4f70-8ac9-0f5a.jpg

The above photo is taken of my '56 292 manifold this was removed some time in the 70s I want to say and it was sitting under a piece of old carpet/rug till I brought it home.

The Por15 matched perfectly as I cleaned it up and brush painted over and the color was just a slight tad more red but that is to be expected with age.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/74b73ae2-a2ce-4220-9b56-c74c.jpg


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Further to the Red engine color discussions.. Some mentioned Dupli- Color engine paint, CDE 1605 Ford Red. It's not the same Red as "old stock" Plasti Coat #206, but their later stock ( apparently by Valspar) isn't either  so that's irelevant.. The CDE 1605 is definately not orangy looking, although as pointed out by a relative who has worked as a painter, it has somewhat of a brown tone to it. For instance, it's definately not a tool box Red either..   
N.B.- I'm now informed by an aftermarket parts supplier that VHT paints are now owned by Duplicolor.. Trying to find an engine Red that isn't orangy is getting annoying!.. 


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I have a Question along similar Lines. The Canadian Y-Blocks were painted Green-not Red. Has anyone any knowledge of the correct Green that was used on these Engines? I know there is a Green Engine Paint available based on the 1929-1940's Engines but I don't know if its the same on the 1950's Y-Blocks? 1950's Flatheads were a different color.

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I have a 56 Country Sedan that had about 63000 miles when I got it. Everything on the drivetrain of the car was original and untouched. While cleaning it up I found paint on the engine in protected areas where the color looked to likely be very close to what it would have been when new. The Dupli-Color Ford Red matched that color very well. I'd say dead on.

That said in the eighties I was involved with the Mustang Club of America for a while. These guys can be pretty picky about every little thing as you might expect. Now some of them would sit and argue about every last detail. Take carpet for example. It MUST be like this and this and this to be concours correct. HAS to be. No exceptions. Points off if not exactly like what we say.

Then a man who had worked in Ford management comes along and says, "Well to keep up with demand there were six different suppliers of carpet for the early Mustangs. Not all exactly the same. Each plant may have used different stuff than the other and each may not have used the same stuff all year."  So none of y'all are "right". Or all you are. Or (my opinion) it doesn't really matter anyway. 

Also in the 80s for several years I worked at Bayliner at the original plant in Arlington, Washington. I can tell you positively that each boat of each model was not going to be exactly identical to the other. Many little details were simply what one person on the line did that day on that shift, maybe even on just that boat. Somebody restoring one those boats would think they were all that way, like the one they have.

Todays manufacturing principles have taken away probably most of these kind of things. But surely in the 50s it was happening. Ever look at the welding on a 56 Ford frame? Atrocious. Like it was the guys first day on the job, first day of of welding, and he showed up drunk. Then again that's on those that I have seen with my own eyes and stories I have heard from other guys that have seen the same thing. That leaves more than 99.99% of all the other Ford frames which none of us saw that may have been expertly done.

Anyway I will not be using any orange tinted paint on anything I have. I have a nice little early 283 that is actually supposed to be orange of course. It won't be when I'm through with it. Ford Red would be a good bet. With no orange tint.



Your story  about the  Carpet reminds me of My 1977 Mustang Cobra II  Gold and Black. I bought the car New took it to a Car show with original paint and Strips. The judge  told me the Snake Decals were on the car in the Wrong place, they were mounted too high and docked points. When I told him it was never repainted since new he basically told me I was snot telling the truth!  later  at a different show the same judge and a second  more informed judge Both went over  my Car the second judge gave me a top original .and said it is normal  for the snakes to be in different locations!

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Thanks, folks.  I've found them at various auto stores in nearby Cloquet MN.  I'm between Duluth & Cloquet; most of the time cloquet's easier (smaller) and closer for driving.

Thanks again, JLB

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If you want a real Red that's not orange tinged, do not buy current stock Plasti - Cote # 206.. the company has changed hands & their current stock of that number isn't even close to the old stock.. I enquired about it & they didn't have an answer for my enquiry except to offer to take it back..     


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Hi, again!
In my area [Duluth MN} we have Menards, Home Depot; Auto Zone, O'Reilley's, NAPA, L&M Supply, & Auto Value.

Does anyone know who carries which brands: SP152 Ford Red; the VHT Ford Red [10155 04442]; Plasticote Ford Red #206; and/or Duplicolor DC 1605 all mentioned in prior posts here?  Any info. on any of these suppliers would help.

Thanks,  JLB

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