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DSmoke
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Hello all, new here, new to Y block, and to classic cars. I made an intro past a few days ago. I have read and researched and come looking for your expert advice. I have a 56 Country Sedan that as I was told had a 312 (with a Novi AC unit) installed in the car in the 70's. The car is a one owner and so far everything that I was told has checked out. The motor was a oily greasy mess so today I sprayed a little degreaser on it. I would like to do some maintenance to it like new spark plugs and a oil change as I have no idea when any of this was done. So here I am looking for your expert advice. 1. What motor do I have, the block code is EDB 6015 E, located above oil filter on drivers side 2. The exhaust manifolds are ECH 9431A 3. What maintenance would you do if this was your car. The car runs good, just want to be proactive at this point to keep it running before a rebuild. 4. Where can I find more info on the carb and the choke setup. Thanks for any and all replies! 
56 Country Sedan Carlisle, PA
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charliemccraney
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1. EDB-E is most likely a 292 but could be a 312. At this point in time, what is installed on the engine has little meaning as far as identifying it goes because any number of parts could have been swapped. You'll find out which one it is when you tear it down for rebuild. For the time being, it really doesn't matter what it is. 3. I'd change all fluids and do a tune up.
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Rono
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DSmoke; I agree with Charlie, but here are a couple more things to consider; Look at your data plate on the Driver's side door jam. If the VIN starts with a "P", then you can assume your wagon at least started it's life with a 312 installed at the factory. If you are planning on driving it much before your tear down, it might be a good idea to check the brake shoes by pulling the drums off. This will also tell you if any wheel cylinders are leaking. With the stock master cylinder it only takes 1 wheel cylinder to fail which will leave you with no brakes! The new Ford Y Block rebuild book will also give you good info on your carb and other aspects of the motor. Rono
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NoShortcuts
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DSmoke. EDB 6015-E engine block is listed as '58- April '59 292 Ford passenger car or truck AND '58- April '59 312 Mercs on John Mummert's web site. Search Ford Y-Block.com Here's John Mummert's listing of y-block engine codes from his web page address http://www.ford-y-block.com/Block%20identification.htmAs Charlie indicated, over time parts get moved around. It's always been cheaper to swap engines than to rebuild them. Good used engines have long been sought in salvage yards from wrecks as donors. Rono's suggestion is a good one. Consider purchasing the book from Morris. It's available from Amazon, Barnes & Noble book stores, or from other Internet sites. https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=I7emAgAAQBAJ&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1&gl=US&gclid=CNGlnqiG7c4CFQsENwodnBUMvQ&gclsrc=dsHope this helps.
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DSmoke
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I will find that book and order ASAP, thank you! The VIN starts with M, so 292 right? The first thing I did were the brakes, got them working better, might have one leaking, monitoring that now. We will just be using the wagon for the occasional drive around the neighbor hood and small trips. The wagon is replacing motorcycles for our family, so we use it for fun.
I am trying to figure out what oil filter to buy and where, and what spark plugs and what the gap should be. I have a 56 Ford Car service manual but that only shows a 272 and 312, and mine doesn't match either. Because I'm not sure what it is I don't know where to start. Was planning on 5 quarts of an oil with good zinc content. Sorry for the newbie questions, after years of working on motorcycles, this although close in theory, seems so different and frustrating at the moment. The goal is to keep it a running project car for the family to enjoy for now. I want to make sure I did the basics so I can continue to enjoy the car while I learn more about what I have and develop a plan for the build. So, I truly appreciate all the the help and advice.
56 Country Sedan Carlisle, PA
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miker
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I agree with everything above. The only thing I might add is to pull the valve covers and make sure there's oil up above, and check the amount of sludge up there. That might impact how often you do oil changes in the future. If it sounds and runs good, it's probably fine, but it's nice to know.
Having owned motors I wanted to do a quick clean up and paint on, I'll pass along a tip from a dealer I knew. Cheap Wally World tin foil is the quickest and best way to mask off areas for a little rattle can paint. Way better than tape and paper. From the looks of your bike, maybe you haven't had to resort to that.
Nice ride, and welcome to the site.
miker 55 bird, 32 cabrio F code Kent, WA Tucson, AZ
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slumlord444
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I would also adjust the valves. For motor oil Valvoline Racing oil is recommended. If it has the original oil filter it is a cartridge that goes in the housing. It may have been converted to a spin on filter, which is easier to change.
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DSmoke
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It looks like the original can type filter, can that be cleaned or do I need to order one. I believe this would be the right one: http://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_mercury_late/oil-filter-canister-type-motorcraft-brand-with-seal-4-3-4-x-4-ford-and-mercury-239-ohv-272-292-312-v8-401285.htmlSpark plugs, should I use Autolite 45 or 46? I downloaded the book and started reading through it, I can tell that will be a great resource!
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charliemccraney
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That filter should be available through a local auto parts store.
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57RancheroJim
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Don't try to clean the old filter, buy the new one,. Autolite 45 will be fine, gap at .035. A new air filter may be helpful too.
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