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edelbrock 1403 500cfm on new 292 y-block

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Howdy folks,

Well I finally have my truck running after a full engine rebuild. Its a 59 292 bored.060 with a mummert aluminum intake and headers. It has a mild cam. 
My question is I had it over carbed I think with a 625 street demon carb. So the engine builder recommended a edelbrock 1403 500cfm carb with a 1" open plenum spacer. I live in Longmont CO and we are 4,984 feet above sea level. Anyone out there live in co and tune this carb for a y-block. I have tried every different spring and the strongest ones ( silver ) seem to work best. For the jets Edelbrock recommended 83 jet for primary and 92 for secondary. I tried several different metering rods and the stocks 6552 seem to be ok. The truck seems to have a small bit of lag when you really get into it. Its not a stumble but the pick up i not instantaneous. Any other tuning hits would help tons. Thanks folks.
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Here's some background from Ted's site. Big motor,but the principles apply. See what clears the hood, and mind Edelbrocks warnings about air cleaner sizes and clearances. It's in the tuning manual.

http://www.eatonbalancing.com/blog/2012/09/29/carburetor-spacer-testing/

I'll stand by my comments about you needing to know the vacumn readings.

The Mummert manifold and headers would normally like a little richer mixture than stock. That's a generic comment about any engine with those upgrades.



That said, you need to sort out why you've got the smaller jets (how did Edelbrock recommend those?) than the base carb info and tuning chart show. If you didn't start stock, I'd be inclined to install the stock jets, rods, and springs in the primary. Since you don't mention the secondary's I'll assume they haven't changed. My experience with these carbs is on almost any moderate street motor, they're close out of the box. Tuning is relatively minor for drivability or max power. Then check the float settings. From your description, I don't think you've got a fuel pressure problem, but that's also a possibility. Check the timing, vacumn advance disconnected and plugged. Most of these motors like more initial than the book, up around 10 degrees initial, with 25-30 all in by 2500 or so. I'm assuming you've got the stock distributor, and someone didn't put a Loadomatic in it. They won't work at all with that carb. We could go on about a PCV system and the right valve, etc. but you seem too close for that.

From there, I'd tune for drivability, and follow the chart. You're at 5000 ft, so you're not going to move all the way to ref#24, just part of it. Maybe, depending on the cam, not at all. One change at a time. Watch the ambient temperature if you have big swings. A result in the morning at 50 degrees may not translate to late afternoon at 90. Keep looking at the tuning manual till you really understand it. I've been wrenching on cars for 50 years. Most of my dead ends were from not reading the instructions. Not just cars, either.

miker
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Forum Post edelbrock 1403 500cfm on new 292 y-block By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post From the manual that should have come with the carb. It's available... By miker ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hi Miker, thanks for the reply. I am looking at the chart now for a... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yes, but I read ref#24 as being a 86 jet, not the 83 you're running.... By miker ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Try a 4-hole or divided spacer. Open is generally not the best choice... By charliemccraney ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post I do have an extra 4 hole spacer however its really tall about 3" I... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Here's some background from Ted's site. Big motor,but the principles... By miker ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post 1", 2", maybe even your 3" will be ok, if you can fit it under the... By charliemccraney ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post MIker. To my knowledge Edelbrock recommended the smaller jets because... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Whoa! 7" of vacumn at idle isn't a mild cam. It's either a big one... By miker ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post I just put on my 4-hole 2" spacer. Seems to run a tad bit smoother in... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Sorry maybe I missed it above but what jets for primary and secondary... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'd do whatever is outlined in the excellent tuning manual that came... By charliemccraney ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Total agreement with miker and Charlie on the 7” of vacuum; that’s... By Ted ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks a ton for all of the help fellas. I'll keep you posted as to... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post If I read your post and the chart right, you're running the natural... By miker ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Its been a while and I had forgotten about this post so I wanted to... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post 11-12 inches is still very low vacuum. Which cam do you have? By charliemccraney ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Charlie, he says it's an E4. I can only get 12-13 with my E4 also.... By 57RancheroJim ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Oh, yeah, he did. I have a bigger cam and get 15", However, mine is... By charliemccraney ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post That very well could be. At idle ( 525 RPM ) I can hardly tell there... By 57RancheroJim ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Here is a video of mine idling at about 550 rpm and you can for sure... By ianmatt ( 10 Years Ago )
Forum Post Carter/Edelbrock carburetor float levels are sensitive to the fuel... By Ted ( 10 Years Ago )


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