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2016 EMC Vintage class heavy on Y Block entries

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It's easy to see why the EMC scoring system might not be understood by a casual reader of the April 2016 Hot Rod magazine. The engine write ups contained some mistakes & the point scores of each engine aren't even mentioned. In the preamble they mention the scoring system, but even then they didn't get it right... but then again we know that H.R. has always had an obsession with peak horsepower figures. It likely is a result of them suffering from a terminal case of  "scrubitis."..   edit; (the word I wrote isn't the one in italics, the site auto alters it).. 



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The competition will definitely get your wheels turning.  The motors have make ridiculous TQ/cu.in  as well as make pretty strong amount HP/cu.in...   The big motor , small motor thing is a double sided coin,  One  makes power at one end of the rpm spectrum and vice versa.  The smaller engines will be much more camshaft sensitive because induction and exhaust velocities will be slower.  Bigger engines will have better combustion chamber shape, ( wont need any dome or possibly dish even.).
 Production engines are built with longevity and part throttle efficiency in mind.  
 Engine Masters Challenge is frame of mind, almost more than what your working with.  Generally speaking what your tying to do is make the engine do things about 1000-1500rpm sooner than you ever dreamed possible. Long strokes, short rods, high rocker ratio, etc. etc.  All these jack velocities up past speeds they were designed for.

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Hydraulic lifter engine gets a huge benefit over solid?


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LordMrFord (6/1/2016)
Hydraulic lifter engine gets a huge benefit over solid?

I’ll say No.  When hydraulic lifters were required, most competitors ran them at the point of being almost bottomed out.  Camshaft ramp profiles is where I’d place much of the emphasis.  Lots of tuning available in varying the lash on a solid lifter camshaft also.



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Is retrofitted variable cam timing illegal?
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LordMrFord (6/3/2016)
Is retrofitted variable cam timing illegal?

That would likely come under the heading of ‘Camshaft Drive’ and in that section of the rules, there are no rules.  Simply says ‘unlimited’ meaning anything goes.  Here’s the link to the website which will get you to the rules.
http://www.hotrod.com/events/1602-2016-amsoil-engine-masters-challenge-new-classes-dates-and-rules-announced/ 


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hey Royce! i'd think you could make a Lincoln Y as big and powerfull as a olds! especially if you had the resources that john has! so much for being a ford man!

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Lord, Maybe you meant solid roller lifters!

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Y block Billy (6/30/2016)
Lord, Maybe you meant solid roller lifters!




Nope.

Variable cam timing like what some small block scrubs used to have in the eighties? or vanos.
Only dark and crazy ideas rolling in head during sleepless nights but might never get more real than that.

Still might be good solution on contest what needs wide torque curve.



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