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Help with engine swap on 1956 Thunderbird

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Zuburg, I sent you a pm regarding the Fordomatic I just removed from my 55 Tbird . It is the proper transmission for the car and has been replaced by a T-5 5 speed manual. I live about 45 minutes from you in Mebane so feel free to come have a look , measure or whatever you like.

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I  just checked a FOM in the back of my garage. . The tag is PAR 7003  F2. Above this cast into the case is PAH 7006  D. To the right on the oval is stamped 56144
Measure your case DO NOT INCLUDE the 1/8 inch plate  between the case and the tailshaft housing. Post what you measure. Pete

PS I believe I bought this from a man who told me it was from a 1955 pickup. The bell housing was from a truck.
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Zuburg, looking at Hoosiers post over on the ford barn, and assuming when you and he say "housing" you mean the tailshaft, and that Pete's comment is correct, expand you're search. Could very well be someone changed the tailshaft from the original bird trans to put an otherwise good but earlier Fordo in it. I have no idea what else this would entail, but back in those days any trans shop would know what to switch to salvage something. My bird has a truck Dana 44 in it, no doubt a junkyard solution to replace a bad rear axle. Old cars, who knows.

Going back to cleaning things up, I never thought of a cheap HF tarp. A company called Uline sells a variety of oil absorbent items. We used to use them on constructions site, and they were available at most boatyards. Might be able to lay the tarp, put the tube type barrier around, and contain the mess. Want you do when you roll it all up is up to you.

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Darn, I thought once I could find the numbers and plate information, I would find out what I actually have.  I assume that if this bolts to a 239 it will also bolt up to a 292?  I guess I should just go forward with my plan to rebuild this transmission and mate it up to my new 292 long block I have coming and hope for the best.

I don't have the sheet metal duct cover on the driver's side of this transmission.  Is this necessary or advisable for the transmission?  If so, any idea where I can find one?

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I can not ID your FOM but the 55/57 Tbird used a MEDIUM CASE 10 1/4 inch long and the 51/59 Ford used a SMALL CASE 9 7/8 inch long. Also the pan and pan gasket are different on them. Pete
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The only thing close I could find with a -C2 was
PAH 7003-C2  TRUCK
PAP 7003-C2  TAXI
PAR 7003-C2  56 FORD
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Zuburg.  I've looked . . . '49-'59 Ford Text and a Hollander '54-66 Interchange . . . I can't get down to a service I.D. prefix of PAB in Ford, Mercury, or Ford truck!  Yeah.  I'm scratching my head!   Unsure


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Ah, I was looking for a PMB - A, but Gil only listed the ones for Thunderbirds.  I'll bet the one I have didn't originally come on a Thunderbird but either fit, or was made to fit.  Maybe someone else can help determine what it originally came from?  I'm guessing a 1954 Ford passenger car.

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Ohttps://www.ctci.org/gilsgarage/TransID.phpK. Pete
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Well, thanks to many of you, I now have the old Y-block and Fordomatic out of the 56 Tbird.  I'll show a couple of pictures.  My latest question is trying to identify the Fordomatic.  I've checked many of the bits of information from the forums such as Charlie's Tranny and Cici's Garage and other links, but I'm still not sure where mine falls.  I now have both a casting number from the housing and the information off the oval tag on the side of the transmission.  Can anyone identify this tranny with the following information?
Stamp on Housing:  PMB - 7976 - A
Information on oval tag:  PAB - 7003 - C2 on the left side of the oval, and 50 - 44072 on the right side of the oval

thanks,http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/9db8f42c-301d-4184-8358-d6d8.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/bec12376-b154-4694-946d-3415.jpghttp://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/2961a5f1-3722-4c70-b039-acb6.jpg


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