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I am an F-Code newbie but I recently purchased a 57 F-Bird clone and I need some help regarding identifying the parts.  I should point out that this car was last touched in 1974 according to the previous owner, who I know well enough to know that he couldn't tell a lie to save his life.  What I do know is that the engine and supercharger set up came out of an F-Code passenger car.   That being said, I have had some conflicting information and I was hoping that some of you experts could help me out.  

Both of these heads have the EDB-D casting numbers on them near the intake manifold ports however the combustion chamber surfaces have casting codes that are not identical.  What if anything can you tell me based on the pictures?  Are there date codes on these?  If so where and how do I read them. What do the markings indicate? What are these heads worth?  What is an intake worth, or correct carburetor?  What is the whole package worth?  

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Does anyone have any input on what this stuff might be worth?  I know it always comes down to what someone is willing to pay, but I have heard a bunch of numbers and I don't know what is realistic.   Ive heard tell of $5,000+ for the heads alone, Ive also seen them go as low as $4,000.  The intake on the other hand I have no idea.  I have been offered $1500 and $2,000 but I couldn't say if that is low or about right.  And now Ted mentioned that the carburetor might be the most valuable part and now I don't know what to think.  I would really appreciate any guidance you guys can offer.  I am not trying to inflate the market into outerspace but I also want to get a good value for the parts with out either party being ripped off.  Any wisdom you can share would be incredibly helpful!  


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Does anyone have any input on what this stuff might be worth?  I know it always comes down to what someone is willing to pay, but I have heard a bunch of numbers and I don't know what is realistic.  I would really appreciate any guidance you guys can offer.  I am not trying to inflate the market into outerspace but I also want to get a good value for the parts with out either party being ripped off.  Any wisdom you can share would be incredibly helpful! 


You've got to determine what you've got parts-wise.  The original '57 passenger car supercharged engine would not go into the 'Bird you've purchased.  Assuming that 'Bird style components were used to install the engine, you've got to determine if they are original Ford replacement components or later non-Ford reproductions. 

Presently, (today) for 'F' code 'Bird applications...
- new (reproduction) air cleaner housings are being made and sold,
- reproduction bracketry has been available in the past...some in aluminum, some in cast iron,
- new (reproduction) 'Bird standard transmission and automatic transmission crankshaft front dampers are available for sale
- original 'Bird tach drive distributors can be re-fitted with re-worked distributor plates to mount dual points per original, re-stamped to display the 'Bird S.C. i.d. number (only the suffix letter has to be changed).  I don't think that original spec S.C. distributor springs, distributor cams, and vacuum advance chambers are being installed in these clones.
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What's are the parts worth?  To the person who is restoring a true 'F' 'Bird or 'F' passenger car, who is missing these parts...IF the parts ARE original and IF the parts have production dates, it becomes important that the dates on the parts are pre the production date of the car being restored.  IF all the info. fits, the parts can bring t-o-p dollar from that buyer.
 
For someone who is building a clone for nostalgia purposes or sanctioned racing, they still may pay a serious dollar, but not as much as the individual building a numbers-matching museum type car.
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IF I were looking to sell what you have, I would contact someone who has dealt with this stuff extensively and KNOWS what they're looking at and WHO they might turn to for a sale that would be related to the restoration of a high end car.  The following individuals KNOW '57 Ford supercharged engine parts and assemblies.

Don Hyde, Plano, TX   Fax: (972) 423-4636
Amos Minter, Dallas, TX   email - amosminter@sbcglobal.net
Jim Weatherly, Fullerton, CA   phone 714 525-9477
Gil Baumgartner, Fairfield, CA   email - gilbaum@inreach.com
Felix Natoli, Perry, NY  email - Natolibird@aol.com

Hope this helps .  Smile


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Just as an FYI I struck a deal to sell the two heads intake and Carb for $7500. I will be delivering the parts to him at about 10am today. With that I have one other person offering $8,000 but I am sticking with the first buyer as he has been helpful to me in the past. All of the parts are in the condition they were in when I pulled them.

I just wanted to let you guys know what they went for, thanks for all of the help!
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NoShortcuts (11/27/2014)
Presently, (today) for 'F' code 'Bird applications...
- new (reproduction) air cleaner housings are being made and sold,
- reproduction bracketry has been available in the past...some in aluminum, some in cast iron,
- new (reproduction) 'Bird standard transmission and automatic transmission crankshaft front dampers are available for sale
- original 'Bird tach drive distributors can be re-fitted with re-worked distributor plates to mount dual points per original, re-stamped to display the 'Bird S.C. i.d. number (only the suffix letter has to be changed).  I don't think that original spec S.C. distributor springs, distributor cams, and vacuum advance chambers are being installed in these clones.
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What's are the parts worth?  To the person who is restoring a true 'F' 'Bird or 'F' passenger car, who is missing these parts...IF the parts ARE original and IF the parts have production dates, it becomes important that the dates on the parts are pre the production date of the car being restored.  IF all the info. fits, the parts can bring t-o-p dollar from that buyer.
 
Don Hyde, Plano, TX   Fax: (972) 423-4636
Amos Minter, Dallas, TX   email - amosminter@sbcglobal.net
Jim Weatherly, Fullerton, CA   phone 714 525-9477
Gil Baumgartner, Fairfield, CA   email - gilbaum@inreach.com
Felix Natoli, Perry, NY  email - Natolibird@aol.com

Charlie, I'm still making passenger car Brackets from nodular Iron, as well as the pulleys. I also can provide the aluminum Bonnets to order. Don Antilla in Connecticut sells the castings for the T'Bird, while mine are passenger car only. Frank Stubbs in Wa makes (made ) the repo Air cleaners.
 


Frank/Rebop

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Forum Post EDB-D Heads By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post You only show the date code on one of the heads and that date code is... By Ted ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post I snapped a couple more pictures, I believe this is what you were... By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post If your considering selling any of those parts I have an interest.... By Oldmics ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Do those valve springs have internal dampner springs? Is there a... By Oldmics ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Yes there is a second set of valve springs inside the outer set. They... By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Does anyone have any input on what this stuff might be worth? I know... By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]F-Code Clone (11/25/2014)[/b][hr] Does anyone have any... By NoShortcuts ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Just as an FYI I struck a deal to sell the two heads intake and Carb... By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]NoShortcuts (11/27/2014)[/b][hr] Presently, (today) for... By pegleg ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post 87B or 87R on the other head? Hard to make out the last letter but... By Ted ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Hi, I just paid $4300.00 for parts like these and I think I got a... By Cliff ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Cliff, what all did you get for the $4,300? By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Wow! That really is a deal, there was a VR57 Supercharger and carb... By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Nice collection of F parts, they all look correct, I am surprised at... By randyh ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks, I am surprised as well. I have quite a history working with... By F-Code Clone ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]F-Code Clone (11/26/2014)[/b][hr] Thanks, I am surprised... By Ted ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post Frank Rice aka Pegleg and Richard Stuck. Just wait a while and they... By Hollow Head ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post John Mummert's web site at http://www.ford-y-block.com/ has some... By NoShortcuts ( 11 Years Ago )
Forum Post I'd have to say they're worth ever bit of 4300. The intake is valuable... By pegleg ( 11 Years Ago )


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