Does anyone have a std bore or .030 292 block close to Mississippi coast they would be willing to sell?  I plan to go to the Spring Swap in Columbus in April so that is an option as well.  All I need is bare block, or a short block if that is what is available.  ALready have a set of the `57  "G" heads.  I have a 272 block, but it is stuck right now, and I may not be able to save it.  I hope to get it disassembled soon, so I can see what I have left of it.  Also, any information on adapting a scattershield from either a small block or FE to the Y, I know of a couple people who have adapted some scattershield, but dont know any particulars...Help.  If the 272 can go to 292 std bore, that would be great, but as I said, my block may or may not be savable.  Any info there would be helpful as well (ie..will 3.62 bore go to 3.75 safely?)  This is my first Y project, many many small blocks, Clevelands, FEs and 460s, so any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks guys...               

James Potter
`57 Fords International



`57 Custom Tudor

`57 Fords International National Director

Pass Christian, MS (near Gulfport/Biloxi)

i have a 292 engine that came out of a 59 edsel might consider selling.i live 25 miles from columbus ohio.contact me if you still need one. before you come to the swap meet carl   ohio

Some 272’s will go out to 292 bore size but sonic testing is the best way to determine if the block will safely bore out this far.  Core shift during casting is still the primary issue in many of these blocks holding up after boring and this is what the sonic test will clarify.

 

I have built an adapter to put the C4 for a FE behind the Y and the same adapter would work for the FE scattershield.  The adapter I fabricated uses the FE flywheel and FE starter also with everything spaced out the thickness of the adapter.  An alternative is to use the Quicktime bellhousing which is Y specific and SFI approved.  This is a pretty new offering and as such, haven’t seen or heard of one on a Y powered vehicle yet so fit and/or quality is still unknown.

 

Here’s a link to the thread discussing the Quicktime bellhousings.

Quicktime bellhousing thread

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)

Hi James, glad to see that you finally made it over here to the "Y" side. Give me some time, if you are not in a big hurry, I may have just what you need. I am just south of Montgomery, AL on I65. Tell us more about what you have planned, hopefully for that 57 custom that you just picked up.

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

Yeah, Glen, it's for the `57 Custom.  I had originally planned to build a Cleveland or FE of some kind.  The more I think about it, the cooler I think the Y would be.  My canr came with 272 and 3 speed, so the basic stuff is there.  Now that I have found out about the Quicktime bells, plus Ted's adapter for the FE bell, that makes the decision easier.  I am aiming for a 292 block, maybe .030, with aftermarket rods and pistons of some kind.  Hopefully I can snake a steel crank in the process.  I am still toying with the idea of forced induction, even with the Y.  You may remember some of my tentative plans for turbocharging the Cleveland.  Well, I still have those wheels turning in my head, and if I can get the stuff set up properly, get the tubne right, and all of the stars line up, I may be able to get some serious power out of what many people consider a dinosaur or boat anchor.  I told one of my best friends my plans to build a Y for the `57, his first words were, "Aww man...."  Once I started talking boost, he started coming around.  With good ignition, fuel and air managment, and of course, PSI, I believe the Y can handle it's share of Bowtie meatheads....

Glen, I am not that far from you, and am currently looking for a truck, which could bring me into your area.  Make me a price on the 292, and I will see what happens.  I am close enough that I could plan a special trip anyway.  I know Gambill is glad to hear of my Y block ambitions, lol.  Thanks again everyone...

James Potter
`57 Fords International



`57 Custom Tudor

`57 Fords International National Director

Pass Christian, MS (near Gulfport/Biloxi)

Great! I think you will get plenty of input and some expert advice on this site. We need to talk, I'm sending you a PM with my number, give me a call next week.

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

James:

Welcome to this world of sanity (or INsanity).  Now that you talk about boost, I would suggest you not try to bore a 272 to 292 and then boosting it.  Sound walls are a necessity with boost.  But how cool would a 275 inch Y with turbo be?  Talk about upsetting the sbc guys' applecart!

John in Selma, IN

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"

Jim,

       Finally got some sense, or lost it. There may well be 3 or 4 NEW blown cars at Columbus this year. Ray Vargo, Virginia is working on a blown T'Boid, Dennis K (can't spell it) is doing a Custom and his buddy Larry is also, Both guys are former T Bolt racers, so they know how to do this. Feistritzer's building a new engine to replace the one he blew at Columbus in '07, and Gordon Payne is working on his F code. We'll have to see if we can talk Pat Fleischman into coming up from Texas with his. You better get building man, this is going to too cool for school!

Frank/Rebop

Bristol, In ( by Elkhart) 

That is awesome, Frank...I will be there this year, with or without my car.  I hope to have it at least in primer and running around by then, but time will tell.  I have been collecting stuff for this car since I bought it, some of it before I bought it.  Hopefully, with a little luck, I will be able to tow up for some fun...See you there.

John, do you think a 272 Y with some boost would run ok?  I guess if some would run ok, a lot of boost should be pretty cool....hmmm, gonna have to look into that a little.  Anybody got any flow numbers for some ECZ-G heads?  Thats what I have right now, and from what I gather, they should do what I want with the turbos I am working with...I may start looking into a 272 + .030 or so...What about piston availabilty for the 272?  I havent seen much for the 272, plenty for the 292 and 312 though...

James Potter
`57 Fords International



`57 Custom Tudor

`57 Fords International National Director

Pass Christian, MS (near Gulfport/Biloxi)

James:

Yes, I think a blown 272 could fly.  Karol Miller did that about 50 years ago.  But you may hit a snag on the piston availability.  I hadn't thought of that.  Having them special made is a problem when time is an issue.

I'm glad to see you looking at Y power for your '57.  Does this mean you are planning to switch from your '57 Fords International group to the Y group races?  I had to make that choice years ago, it was difficult, but I'm not disappointed with the choice I made.  With a Y engine, if the EXPO officials would allow it, you could run both groups.  Wouldn't it be a hoot if you ended up running yourself for the Y block vs. '57 Ford match?  Come to think of it, several of the Y guys could do that.  I think the rules state you can't run more than one class, though we do.  But maybe they'd notice if we ran 3 classes.

Someone else will have to jump in with the G flow numbers.  You will have to watch compression ratios when you boost them.  Probably would be OK on a 292, would be too much on a blown 312 though.  You could probably live with around 9:1, but don't lower the ratio by moving the piston down the hole.  Ys like 0 deck.

If Glen or someone in your area can't come up with a 292 block, I have some, but I'm not exactly in your back yard.

John in Selma, IN

John - "The Hoosier Hurricane"