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Hey all, starting on the power steering install for my car, which is actually a 56. I know several have done the swap and I was wondering if anyone has used the granada gear box. I have a great used gear box and pitman arm and it appears to me from a quick look that 2 of the 3 bolts line up. I am swapping columns anyway so I would like to swap in the granada box to get the lesser lock to lock ratio.

Also, I bought new granada inner tie rods, was wondering if I could just use my 56 outer tie rods, they are already new. Let me know what yall have done, thanks.
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Just curious-If you are changing the column and want to install power steering why are you even bothering with the Granada style power steering setup?You could install the later type integral power steering box and just have a pressure and return hose from the box to the pump and forget about the ram and control valve under the car. There's adapters available to mount the box in the same place as it is now.Unless you are using a standard transmission which I guess involves a little more fabrication for the clutch hookup when you change the box to the integral style.Those Granada type setups would start to leak at the ram and control valve.Unless you have some fresh rebuilt ones?Just wondered why you were doing it this way?

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Mark, well I guess the answer would be ease and cost. At least from what I know. I have the parts to rebuild the control valve and power ram cylinder, have a new pump, tie rods, and will buy new hoses. I figure around $300 or so invested, assuming I dont hit any roadblocks on the rebuilds. I have been on some maverick forums so I know they all hate this setup, many remove it and go manual because they hate it. I dont plan on mine leaking when I am done with it, if it does I am going to give it HE** to fix it. So the short answer there I guess is I have everything for it, it wont cost much, and its dang near bolt in.

I have seen some others (gearheads, butch's, borgeson) but they are way to expensive (over $1000) and/or not recommended by some that have them.

I am definitely open to something else, I havent gotten to deep in this one yet. Is there something that is recommended, or are you just saying to play around with other things? My intentions are a universal column and power steering so either way my steering box and column are coming out.

Oh, I do have a manual trans but I am running a hydraulic clutch so that wont be an issue. Love to hear what you know. Thanks
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I wish someone would ID the import box that Borgenson uses for their conversion. Chuck

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Moonshadow, its from a mid 90's Isuzu Trooper, modified to bolt into the 50's Ford frame. Borgeson uses the same box for the Mustangs. I have the actual part number somewhere but i can't find it right now.

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I'm pretty sure its this one.
http://www.carsteering.com/partview/Isuzu/Trooper/Power_Steering_Gear_Box/82~00362_R.html#

Part# 82-00362-R

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What do they do to make these work with the 50's Fords? Seems like a lot of price difference. Chuck

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lyonroad, i looked up the 96 trooper box and that does look like it may be it. what about the pitman arm, any idea what its from? I can see numbers on the arm on their website but google is not returning any info on those #'s. I am wondering what ford pump would work with it? I know there are different pressure's involved with different power steering setups. These trooper boxes can be had for a fraction of the cost at at the yards or ebay and can make our own bracket. If we could figure out the pitman and pump it would be a great start. For example

The same box (according to oreilly compatibility list) also fits

1994-1997 Honda Passports
1989-1994 Amigo's
some isuzu pickups and troopers
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OK, now this is getting interesting. Check this out

Gear Box Plate

Gear box and plate
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Moonshadow, they weld a plate to it that matches the Ford bolt pattern. I was going to mention the alternative but ctfortner has already posted it. Of course I found this all out after I purchased a box from Borgeson. If anyone decides to do this don't buy the steering pump from Borgeson, use a Cardone 20-6800 - $58 bucks from Amazon. Don't buy the bracket either you can easily fab your own.

Mark

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1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan
Delta, British Columbia
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