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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Hey all, starting on the power steering install for my car, which is actually a 56. I know several have done the swap and I was wondering if anyone has used the granada gear box. I have a great used gear box and pitman arm and it appears to me from a quick look that 2 of the 3 bolts line up. I am swapping columns anyway so I would like to swap in the granada box to get the lesser lock to lock ratio.
Also, I bought new granada inner tie rods, was wondering if I could just use my 56 outer tie rods, they are already new. Let me know what yall have done, thanks.
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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Just curious-If you are changing the column and want to install power steering why are you even bothering with the Granada style power steering setup?You could install the later type integral power steering box and just have a pressure and return hose from the box to the pump and forget about the ram and control valve under the car. There's adapters available to mount the box in the same place as it is now.Unless you are using a standard transmission which I guess involves a little more fabrication for the clutch hookup when you change the box to the integral style.Those Granada type setups would start to leak at the ram and control valve.Unless you have some fresh rebuilt ones?Just wondered why you were doing it this way?
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Mark, well I guess the answer would be ease and cost. At least from what I know. I have the parts to rebuild the control valve and power ram cylinder, have a new pump, tie rods, and will buy new hoses. I figure around $300 or so invested, assuming I dont hit any roadblocks on the rebuilds. I have been on some maverick forums so I know they all hate this setup, many remove it and go manual because they hate it. I dont plan on mine leaking when I am done with it, if it does I am going to give it HE** to fix it. So the short answer there I guess is I have everything for it, it wont cost much, and its dang near bolt in.
I have seen some others (gearheads, butch's, borgeson) but they are way to expensive (over $1000) and/or not recommended by some that have them.
I am definitely open to something else, I havent gotten to deep in this one yet. Is there something that is recommended, or are you just saying to play around with other things? My intentions are a universal column and power steering so either way my steering box and column are coming out.
Oh, I do have a manual trans but I am running a hydraulic clutch so that wont be an issue. Love to hear what you know. Thanks
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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I wish someone would ID the import box that Borgenson uses for their conversion. Chuck
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Moonshadow, its from a mid 90's Isuzu Trooper, modified to bolt into the 50's Ford frame. Borgeson uses the same box for the Mustangs. I have the actual part number somewhere but i can't find it right now.
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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I'm pretty sure its this one.
http://www.carsteering.com/partview/Isuzu/Trooper/Power_Steering_Gear_Box/82~00362_R.html#
Part# 82-00362-R
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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What do they do to make these work with the 50's Fords? Seems like a lot of price difference. Chuck
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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lyonroad, i looked up the 96 trooper box and that does look like it may be it. what about the pitman arm, any idea what its from? I can see numbers on the arm on their website but google is not returning any info on those #'s. I am wondering what ford pump would work with it? I know there are different pressure's involved with different power steering setups. These trooper boxes can be had for a fraction of the cost at at the yards or ebay and can make our own bracket. If we could figure out the pitman and pump it would be a great start. For example
The same box (according to oreilly compatibility list) also fits
1994-1997 Honda Passports
1989-1994 Amigo's
some isuzu pickups and troopers
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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OK, now this is getting interesting. Check this out
Gear Box Plate
Gear box and plate
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Moonshadow, they weld a plate to it that matches the Ford bolt pattern. I was going to mention the alternative but ctfortner has already posted it. Of course I found this all out after I purchased a box from Borgeson. If anyone decides to do this don't buy the steering pump from Borgeson, use a Cardone 20-6800 - $58 bucks from Amazon. Don't buy the bracket either you can easily fab your own.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks for the info lyonroad. Do you know anything about the pitman arm? That and the hoses are about the only major missing links for us "piece together" folks. I will have to figure out another option on the pump, I am a (easy on me now) serpentine setup. Not sure what pump I could use, I know different pumps have different pressures. 
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By kevink1955 - 12 Years Ago
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I remember reading in one of the mustang forums that they respline the box to accept the mustang pitman arm. I also saw someone who cut the izzu arm spline end and had the ford arm welded to the spline. You realy have to trust your welder on that one.
I have seen that box in a few 55-56 cars, It will only work with a modified auto trans colunm. The colunm must be shortened and a rag joint added, the rag joint and the end ot the box wind up inside the car so a recessed can has to be fabricated around it.
I can not see any way to make it work in a 3 speed as the shift levers wind up in side the car with the shortned colunm and I think the clutch cross bar is in the way of the box.
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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ct I got the hoses from Summit, who get them from Borgeson. Part# 925108. The cost an arm and a leg. I tried to find out from Summit what the specs on the power steering pump were so I could find out what hoses I needed. They said they didn't know or they weren't going to tell me. I ended up buying the hoses and then taking them to my local Parts store and matching them to the Cardone pump.The pitman arm came with the steering box. I just assumed that Borgeson was having them made. I will go look tomorrow for any markings when its light out.
Kevink, I am putting a T5 in my car. I will use the ctforner design for a hydraulic clutch set up. Lots of fun.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks Mark and Kevin. I am having flashbacks on why I chose the Granada setup  . If they are resplining the box that is more than I want to deal with for sure.
I am trying to get some more info from the guy that sells the adapter plate and gear box mentioned earlier in this thread. Response so far...
If you buy the plate you will use the pitman arm that comes on the used gear that you purchase. If you buy the gear, I will supply the pitman arm end that you will weld to your stock arm. I have all of the pumps, hoses, and brackets in stock.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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Sorry to get on a rant here but I get perturbed with people butchering up these old cars, you want power steering, put on a suicide knob, thats what I did. When you change columns and add power steering systems you are taking away from the originality of the car. if you want to drive a new car go out and buy one, if you want to drive an old car, leave it alone. they drove fine as they were designed. I can drive my 55 on the back roads better than any new car, the new cars are too touchy for me, I am just so used to the non power steering oldies that when I get a rental car, I am all over the place, they are too sensitive. Show me a dump truck carrying tons of sand with disc brakes? not, they still have drums, these 50s cars are fine as they were designed, they need a little more maintenance keeping the brakes adjusted, steering box etc but it is all in the joy of owning an old car.
But it is your choice, go ahead take the column out and modernize it with some mongrol along with the rest of the steering setup, see what you get for the car when you try to sell it?
I understand everybody likes to tinker, but find something a little less degrading to tinker with, thats what I do, I built a rat rod with scrap parts, and modify those, but I leave my originals alone!
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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ooops! who am I to talk, T10 9" in my 55.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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but it still drives like a 55, just a littl more uomph!
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By PF Arcand - 12 Years Ago
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It does sound like converting a 55-56 to a later power steering setup may not be worth the expense & aggravation. As for welding pitman arms or box splines, that's definately a butcher job that I'd never consider!..
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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I keep playing with the idea but the power steering unit in my 56 has been rebuilt and drives very well. In fact the steering is a bit too easy at times. I would like to rebuild the box someday its on its last turn on the adjuster. Chuck
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Y block Billy (3/12/2013)
Sorry to get on a rant here but I get perturbed with people butchering up these old cars, you want power steering, put on a suicide knob, thats what I did. When you change columns and add power steering systems you are taking away from the originality of the car. if you want to drive a new car go out and buy one, if you want to drive an old car, leave it alone. they drove fine as they were designed. I can drive my 55 on the back roads better than any new car, the new cars are too touchy for me, I am just so used to the non power steering oldies that when I get a rental car, I am all over the place, they are too sensitive. Show me a dump truck carrying tons of sand with disc brakes? not, they still have drums, these 50s cars are fine as they were designed, they need a little more maintenance keeping the brakes adjusted, steering box etc but it is all in the joy of owning an old car.
But it is your choice, go ahead take the column out and modernize it with some mongrol along with the rest of the steering setup, see what you get for the car when you try to sell it?
I understand everybody likes to tinker, but find something a little less degrading to tinker with, thats what I do, I built a rat rod with scrap parts, and modify those, but I leave my originals alone!
Likewise, nothing perturbs me more than people telling me what I should and shouldn't do with MY car.
I think we have a different idea of what "butchering" a car is. Butchering a car (to me) is people that leave them in a field to rust into worthless, or the ones that are hauled to the crusher, or cutting off the front clip, chopping the top off. Not that I have a problem with some of those, to each his own, but that's my idea of butchering.
If I remove my gearbox and column and bolt on another one, please explain the butchering here, as my original could be re installed anytime, within hours. I removed my spindles and added front disc brakes, a heavier sway bar, and shorter/newer springs. It rides and stops like a dream now. Maybe the car rocking side to side and pumping the drum brakes makes you smile, but it doesn't me. I drove it that way for years. We are talking about adding a few modern conveniences to a car to make it more enjoyable, more reliable, and in some cases safer, whats wrong with that?
If this stuff was so great from the 50's, cars today would still be using the same parts. I am sure it was sufficient but everything can be improved upon and when it comes to my safety and my 3 kids safety, I will take better brakes, better steering, better handling, better seat belts, etc...I will take all of that over keeping you happy by building it the way you want me to. The joy of owning an old car as you mentioned below, is building the car the way you want it to be, making it what you want, not the way you or anyone else wants it to be.
I am sure we will never agree on the way we like our cars to be, and I am ok with that, but I dont understand why you (and many others around) think your way is the right way, but even worse than that think its ok to tell them what they should be doing and not doing, and say how perturbed you are about the way they are building their own car??? Really?
Oh, and as for selling it. It wont ever be sold. Been in the family for long time and handed down to me. My folks
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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Y block Billy (3/12/2013)
Sorry to get on a rant here but I get perturbed with people butchering up these old cars
Sometimes we need to know the history of a car to see the big picture. For example you may look at my '55 RanchWagon and get "perturbed" with me that I "butchered" it because it has a C-4 trans, granada power disks, 8" rear, power window and door locks, etc. without taking into account that if I hadn't "butchered" it, it would no longer be on the road. It would be a Hyundai by now.
It has "Salvaged" stamped on the pink slip and wears it's badge proudly.
Could have it been restored to stock? Maybe, at great expense. Cheaper (and with upgrades) to get a '74-75 Granada and "butcher" it by removing the C-4, Complete braking system, rear end, and various odds and ends that I either used or sold to finance the '55. Sold what was left for scrap.
Car still looks stock (tho lower) but handles and stopped great. Sound somewhat stock also as it has a '57 312".
Back to the Power steering. I posted in the past some instructions on installing a Granada Power Steering that Dick Cohen (RIP), founder of Drop n' Stop gave me. If you are interested I can repost. I have seen some using Jeep Cherokee steering boxes with an adapter plate as shown in the link. I'll see if I can find where I saw that. I think it was on the H.A.M.B.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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ctfortner (3/12/2013)
I am sure we will never agree on the way we like our cars to be, and I am ok with that, but I dont understand why you (and many others around) think your way is the right way, but even worse than that think its ok to tell them what they should be doing and not doing, and say how perturbed you are about the way they are building their own car??? Really?
I must admit I blow a gasket when I see a SBC in one of our cars...
Nice picture... Mom and Dad?
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Since the automobile was invented (probably since the wheel) there have been people who like things stock and those that like to change things. If the latter didn't exist there would be no hot rods, customs etc. Thats the way it is. Leave the "its my way or the highway" attitude to the scrub owners. As far as the amount of work it takes, who cares, that's what I do.
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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One of the great things about this hobby, and the people that represent it at Columbus, is the diversity. We have some members with concours restorations, street customs, hot rods and all out race cars (drag, circle dirt, circuit and land speed). And we all have one thing in common the Y-Block era cars and trucks. Each has done their car to suit themselves and the mods are impressive. I too don't like any other power plants in the Y era vehicles but at least in Columbus they must have Ford power to compete.
My car "MoonShadow" is representative of what I would of had in the early 1960's if I had the money. Right down to the McCullouch supercharger (for now, 4-71 is in the works) and the louvers. I certainly think we've all lived long enough to earn the right to "Do it My Way"! My soapbox. Chuck
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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ct I crawled under the car and looked at the pitman arm that came with the Borgeson box and it has no apparent markings. It looks like an insert has been welded into the drag link end and re drilled to make it compatible with our drag link. The outside diameter of the splined end has been machined slightly to eliminate a pinch point with the new mounting bracket. Its hard to imagine that an Isuzu pitman arm would simply work but there appears to be no other modifications. It seems to be more heavy duty than the stock Ford pitman so I am guessing that they have not resplined a Ford pitman. They do use these boxes on Mustangs so maybe that is a source of the pitman. You could try checking with Borgeson but it may be a company secret. Good luck.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks for checking on it. The guy selling them on ebay said he sells a pitman end also that you weld on. So my guess is he knows what borgeson uses and sells the same thing, although you have to weld the end on yourself. So I will probably stick to the Granada power steering for now. I have it all, it works well enough according to those I know that have it, it looks just like the factory 56 p/s so that will appease our "leave it stock" crowd  . It is surprising after all these years that there is not a more straight forward p/s setup for these cars, I have to admit.
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By Frankenstein57 - 12 Years Ago
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We used to weld pitman arms on dirt cars, they took a wheel to wheel beating without failure. Usually the stock tie rods would bend, a good stick welder and forget a bout it. I get a kick out of the comments about butchering up cars, who are you to tell me what to do or not do with my car?
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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Ditto on the dirt track pitman arms. We welded a lot of taboo stuff to keep racing. Of course we always went with the best welder we had just to be cautious. Never had one break or even twist.
As far as car mods I don't think anyone on this site would be critical of you doing it your way. That is unless you put a scrub engine in! Of course then you are an old Ford guy but never again a Y's Guy. Chuck
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By bird55 - 12 Years Ago
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Sure would like to try this setup on a 55 Bird. Anyone have any thoughts or real world experience on it?
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By GREENBIRD56 - 12 Years Ago
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I haven't seen Eddie Paskey on here for awhile - but I believe he has tried a couple of different steering systems on his 'bird. And he may correct me if he is still around - but I think he ditched the rack and pinion he had on there because of the turning radius.
So far as mods go - see the picture immediately below......
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Thats why i want to get this granada box to work. Should decrease the turning radius a good bit plus have power assist
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By Grizzly - 12 Years Ago
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ctfortner,
The information that I have obtained is detailed here http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic63650.aspx?PageIndex=3#bm79676.
The cheapest way is usually the most expensive way. A steering box change is a very complicated thing. you need to get the input shaft and pitman spline very close to original. And have a pitman arm fit the spline and idler arm with the same lenght and bend. your working in three dimentions and it's easy to introduce all kinds of steering woes.
regards
Warren
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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Sorry, I didn't mean to stir the pot that much. some years ago I was in mexico and I decided to scout junkyards for the weekend to see what kind of old stuff I could find and every car/truck I came across looked original but had a late model steering column in it that just made me gag everytime I looked in the things, they just didn't go together looky wise. My opinion would be adapt your column to the granada steering so at least the inside of the car looks original.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Grizzly (3/14/2013)
ctfortner, The information that I have obtained is detailed here http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic63650.aspx?PageIndex=3#bm79676. The cheapest way is usually the most expensive way. A steering box change is a very complicated thing. you need to get the input shaft and pitman spline very close to original. And have a pitman arm fit the spline and idler arm with the same lenght and bend. your working in three dimentions and it's easy to introduce all kinds of steering woes. regards Warren
Grizzly, I know what you mean about cheapest. But I say that about this situation only because the Granada swap has been a proven success in the 56 Ford car, and of the options I am presented, it is the cheapest, by far. If it wasnt already tested by many and used for years, then I agree it may be the most expensive in trial and error and parts to make it work. I wouldnt attempt this by myself as I have never done something like this, but I am fortunate to have a good friend that really knows what he's doing helping me out.
I actually bought this granada stuff from a guy on here (nite owl) that has been happily running the same setup on his car for a couple of years. He had an extra set. He is running the factory gear box, so the only thing I am going to do different than him and most others is see if the Granada gear box can be easily worked in place of mine, since I am already swapping columns anyway. There is a guy on the hamb with a 57 ford that put the granada gear box on his with the granada p/s setup and said it was simple and works like a dream. Changed the lock to lock from 5+ to about 3.5.
What I can tell so far is the 2 gear boxes are pretty close in dimensions. Looks like the 56 box is just a tad longer but the Granada box looks a little beefier. I can say that when mounted to the frame though, the Granada box will allow about 1/8" or more extra clearance between the box and motor, which is a bonus. We are going to measure, mark, take pictures, etc and then remove the 56 box and put on the Granada box, since 2 of the 3 bolt holes appear they will line up. Once there see what changes would have to be made if any to make it work. The swap is done by leaving the factory box in place and putting the Granada pitman arm on the 56 box, install the granada tie rods, idler arm and center link, mount the ram and run hoses and pump, etc.
So we should (hopefully) be able to mount the Granada gear box so that it ends up sitting with the pitman arm located in the same position it would have if installed on the 56 box and see if that is acceptable for the input shaft and the rest.
I will know a lot more tonight, me and a buddy will be working on this for several hours tonight.
In case you havent seen the info on this swap, here it is
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Billy, sorry about the reaction to you comments. I am a bit sensitive because I grew up with a brother who wouldn't own anything that wasn't a Chev. He tells me to buy a real truck. He won't even accept a GMC. I don't want to be like him so I keep my mouth shut. I have brother in law who is almost as bad. He has a '55 Chev 2 door post (scrub lingo for a tudoor). He just shakes his head every time I talk about Fords. His brother is kind of an omnivore (Ford, Dodge, Chev) but he has a completely stock '29 Model A and he gave me the gears constantly about anything I changed on my vehicle although I could never understand how what I did or didn't do affected him 1 iota. About 4 years ago he came across a '54 Meteor, painted black with voodoo pinstriping and lowered to the point where he can't change tires without dropping the rear axle. Now he finds that the girls with nose rings and purple hair like his car and he now thinks customizing is cool. He wants to hot rod his '29.
With the steering in my case I have not chopped up my original steering columns in either My '56 Merc or the '55 Club Sedan. In both cases I acquired '50s Ford columns that were being thrown out. I salvaged one steering shaft from a '55 pickup. The worm gear was rusted into a stub. On the other I got a junk steering shaft from a repair shop from a '65 Mustang.
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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I am following this swap info with interest.My question is what mounting bracket do you use for the pump to engine mount?I dont see that info in the information sheet posted.
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By sprink88 - 12 Years Ago
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I just have a question. Did your car not come with power steering at all? I have a 57 Fairlane with leaky power steering, And have contemplated getting it rebuilt, or going with another power steering option.
OR
Would it be easier to find the power steering from a boneyard and Stalin an original? I mean for the other guys.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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CT, When Dick originally wrote that article in '54 Ford Club of America there was a sketch that went with it. My scan isn't as good as yours but you should be able to decipher the drawing. The drawing shows where to cut the hole in the frame to bolt on the "L" Bracket. Don't know why he couldn't weld on the bracket instead of cutting a hole in the frame.
Mark, I'm trying to remember back when he showed me the setup on his '54 Sedan Delivery. The pump mount looked stock. He was using the Granada Pump.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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Alrighty then, Found the picture. Sorry about the bad scan. Dick Cohen give this to me years ago.
I just checked Drop n' Stop web site and the photo of Dick's Sedan Delivery is still in the upper right corner. You may want to contact the new owners at Drop n' Stop and see if they have any info on the pump mount. http://www.dropnstop.com on the Granada Conversion. When Dick was alive freely told me about the installation.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks Master Cyl, I had that one to. I never had the pleasure to talk to Dick but the new owner and (i think) son in law is Dave. He is the owner of the sedan delivery now which still has the granada p/s on it. He is a super nice guy, I got some disc brake parts from him. I have called and talked to him about the swap. The only thing different is they stuck with the factory gear box. As far as the L bracket, I plan to weld it on. Not much reason not to really, the ram/cylinder can be removed either way, and nite owl (a member here) who has this setup installed, welded his bracket on his. Dave will help you out for anyone that wants to talk about it. I am not sure if Dave is on this forum but he on the hamb as nascar dave.
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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I think someone else on this site mentioned welding the bracket on as opposed to cutting hole in the frame.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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Well we did some work on this last night. The granada gear box is not going to work (easily) so we are going to stick with the factory box unfortunately. In order to make the granada box fit where it should and everything line up, it would require notching the frame AND likely modifying the pitman arm. The granada box is fatter and shorter, and although it could be made to work, with my engine and everything in, I am not going down that road at this point.
So at this point we have the factory box and column off and will soon be installing the granada linkage and putting back on the 56 gear box. Gonna be a few days before I can get back to it so stay tuned.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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CT, Could I ask a favor of you? While you have the steering column out, could you measure the length for me. I LeCarra wheel in my '55 Ranch feels like it's 'In My Face'. I know the '56 is shorter, just need to know how much and to determine if it's feasible to switch out.
Thanks.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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The Master Cylinder (3/15/2013)
CT, Could I ask a favor of you? While you have the steering column out, could you measure the length for me. I LeCarra wheel in my '55 Ranch feels like it's 'In My Face'. I know the '56 is shorter, just need to know how much and to determine if it's feasible to switch out.
Thanks.
I can do that, maybe not for a few days though. I am swapping columns and I cut the steering shaft off last night so my friend could take it home with him to work on the next move with the universal column and rag joint. So I will need to get the 2 shaft pieces back at the same place to measure it. Now the outer tube wasn't altered and I could place that back on and measure that if it would help, otherwise I might be able to get the 2 pieces together over the weekend sometime and see what it is.
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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This would be good for me to know as well. On my original '55 column the distance from the column support bracket (not the trim plate) to the top lip of the bell is 10 5/8". I don't have the seats in yet so I would like to know a ball park distance for future reference.
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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How much thread is sticking out at the top column bolt? Reason I asked is mine was too short in the thread department but I discovered that you can loosen the underdash clamp and the on at the end of the column under the hood. Then the outer column will move slightly up and down. Mine was too far up. I gained about 1/2" of threads by doing this. Chuck
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By MoonShadow - 12 Years Ago
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How much thread is sticking out at the top column bolt? Reason I asked is mine was too short in the thread department but I discovered that you can loosen the underdash clamp and the on at the end of the column under the hood. Then the outer column will move slightly up and down. Mine was too far up. I gained about 1/2" of threads by doing this. Chuck
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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Haha, still didn't get the memo about multiple posts
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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Not surprising to see multiple dulicate posts.Its VERY slow to upload and you think maybe "I didn't hit the button hard enough".Its easy enough to delete the duplicate.I had a bad flashback on Thursday when I logged on and only got those weird messages we used to get about "site not available" etc.
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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I asked this earlier in this posting.What are you using for pump mounting brackets?Is there any other pulley that can be used on the damper to run the P/S pump besides an original Ford pulley which seem to sell for a good dollar on Ebay when they are listed.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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ctfortner (3/15/2013)
The Master Cylinder (3/15/2013)
CT, Could I ask a favor of you? While you have the steering column out, could you measure the length for me. I LeCarra wheel in my '55 Ranch feels like it's 'In My Face'. I know the '56 is shorter, just need to know how much and to determine if it's feasible to switch out.
Thanks.I can do that, maybe not for a few days though. I am swapping columns and I cut the steering shaft off last night so my friend could take it home with him to work on the next move with the universal column and rag joint. So I will need to get the 2 shaft pieces back at the same place to measure it. Now the outer tube wasn't altered and I could place that back on and measure that if it would help, otherwise I might be able to get the 2 pieces together over the weekend sometime and see what it is.
Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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From steering box to the steering wheel mount is 32-5/8". Then of course the steering shaft (which I have cut off already) sticks out a couple inches or so for the wheel to attach to, but this should get you close
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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For me ct, it looks like the dash support bracket was located at about the 23" mark, which leaves 9 5/8 to the top which is about 1" less in your face for the '56 vs the '55. Thanks.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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CT, Good stuff. Thanks again.
Mark, my column is measures 12.5" from the top of the dash support bracket to the top of the bell which is almost 3" longer. Which kind of makes sense because the '55 steering wheel is flat and the '56 is dished.
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Well isn't that interesting, because, like I said, mine measures 10 5/8. I'll have to put the seat in and make sure I get it right. Thanks.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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No problem. lyonroad that looks like where the dash bracket was, my dash is out right now to so cant tell for sure, but I believe thats where it was, which puts it about 9-1/2" - 9-5/8" range.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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I wonder why the difference?? No wonder mine seems to be "In my Face"... I need to research this farther.
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By ctfortner - 12 Years Ago
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oldcarmark (3/17/2013)
I asked this earlier in this posting.What are you using for pump mounting brackets?Is there any other pulley that can be used on the damper to run the P/S pump besides an original Ford pulley which seem to sell for a good dollar on Ebay when they are listed.
Sorry missed this one somehow. I actually dont run a y-block, running a 302 so it probably wont help you out much. Im installing the granada pump using a March p/s pump bracket for the 302 engine.
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