Profile Picture

Aftermarket Nightmare

Posted By brokengate 13 Years Ago
You don't have permission to rate!
Author
Message
brokengate
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 8 Years Ago
Posts: 138, Visits: 6.3K
Bought an MSD 8383, Blue Thunder intake, and an aluminum REX valley pan, pretty excited until I started the install.  The BT hits the valley pan breather/oil fill, and the BT is a good 1/8 inch maybe more from seating because it's up against the MSD at the rear bolt hole.  These parts just aren't designed to be installed (together) as issued, I'm realy frustrated as I did not anticipate problems.  The valley pan is likely no big deal, grind it down make it fit but why? and I really hate to start hacking on this well crafted manifold.  Maybe I missed a thread about this, but I can't believe these vendors don't realize that there are other aftermarket parts for a Y-block, at least a warning would have been nice, like if you're running an MSD the BT won't fit, or visa versa.  If I was running that other engine these parts would fit as purchased, what a pain in the posterior, or am I expecting to much. 

I'm thinking about going back to the stock manifold or maybe the distributor, any help or experience with the BT/MSD issue would be appreciated.  Also does the Mummert intake have the same issue with the MSD?  Thanks for any advise you can offer, sorry about the attitude.

Ted, Redding, CAhttp://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Uploads/Images/db7e67de-6104-4dd8-93b7-6798.jpg

kidcourier
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)Supercharged (127 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 7 Years Ago
Posts: 127, Visits: 8.8K
  Had the same problem on my '57 with the #8383/Blue Thunder! First problem was getting the MSD past the lip on the firewall,then getting the Blue Thunder manifold to clear the MSD(used a small rotary grinder on both,but mostly on the rear corner of the manifold)got it to fit.Then I install a Road Demon(525)carb and a 1" spacer and a custom oval air cleaner! Guess what! Hood wouldn't close,had to remove the spacer and run just a carb gasket to get enough clearance to close. Ain't life grand!! LOL   KID
rick55
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)Supercharged (658 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 5 Years Ago
Posts: 550, Visits: 4.4K
Take KidCourier's advice and just massage it to fit. The BT manifold is a great manifold that would be snapped up here in a heartbeat.

Regards

Rick - West Australia
Do Y Blocks Downunder run upside down? Gravity Sucks!!
Ted
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Co-Administrator

Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)Co-Administrator (13.2K reputation)

Group: Administrators
Last Active: Yesterday
Posts: 7.4K, Visits: 205.6K

The newer the Blue Thunder intake, the more the problem with the distributor clearance and especially with the MSD #8383 billet distributor.  With the newer batches of BT intakes, I’ve been simply milling the back of the intake in the milling machine.  There’s just an excess of material on the intake for some reason but easily trimmed off.  Here are some pictures showing both the before and after clearances and also with the intake clamped up in the milling machine.  A grinder can also do the same ‘removal’ operation.

   Before.

   Machining off the excess amount of aluminum.

   After.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)


mctim64
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 6 Years Ago
Posts: 2.4K, Visits: 5.0K
Great tech there Ted!  As for me I've had very good luck with modified stock dizzys.  I haven't seen the need for a MSD distributor, althought I do trigger an MSD box with the stock one.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b1f2e0d6-2566-46b3-b81d-3ff3.jpg   God Bless. Smile  Tim                           http://yblockguy.com/

350ci Y-Block FED "Elwood", 301ci Y-Block Unibody LSR "Jake", 312ci Y-Block '58 F-100, 338ci Y-Block powered Model A Tudor

tim@yblockguy.com  Visalia, California    Just west of the Sequoias


brokengate
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 8 Years Ago
Posts: 138, Visits: 6.3K
Mr. Ted Eaton, I took the pictures to a local machine shop and am having milling work done today.  They were invaluable in explaining what needed to be done, not sure how well that would have gone without them. Thank you Sir. 

Ted, Redding, CAhttp://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Uploads/Images/db7e67de-6104-4dd8-93b7-6798.jpg
MoonShadow
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)Supercharged (7.7K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 2 hours ago
Posts: 4.6K, Visits: 38.1K
Did Ted's dad post something here? Who is this Mr Ted Eaton? Smile Chuck

Y's guys rule!
Looking for McCullouch VS57 brackets and parts. Also looking for 28 Chrysler series 72 parts. And early Hemi parts.

MoonShadow, 292 w/McCulloch, 28 Chrysler Roadster, 354 Hemi)
Manchester, New Hampshire
brokengate
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)Supercharged (246 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 8 Years Ago
Posts: 138, Visits: 6.3K
Now I'm really glad I didn't go with Your HighnessSmile

Ted, Redding, CAhttp://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Uploads/Images/db7e67de-6104-4dd8-93b7-6798.jpg
The Master Cylinder
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)Supercharged (1.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 4 Years Ago
Posts: 974, Visits: 6.2K
mctim64 (4/4/2012)
... althought I do trigger an MSD box with the stock one.


Do you trigger the MSD with points or ?? I use a Pertronix to trigger the MSD 6A in my Ranchwagon.

http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Uploads/Images/af13a279-385d-4926-92f2-349a.jpg"The Master Cylinder"

Enjoying life at the beach in SOCAL Smooooth

mctim64
Posted 13 Years Ago
View Quick Profile
Supercharged

Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)Supercharged (2.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 6 Years Ago
Posts: 2.4K, Visits: 5.0K
I use a Petronix also but I have used points in the past.

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/b1f2e0d6-2566-46b3-b81d-3ff3.jpg   God Bless. Smile  Tim                           http://yblockguy.com/

350ci Y-Block FED "Elwood", 301ci Y-Block Unibody LSR "Jake", 312ci Y-Block '58 F-100, 338ci Y-Block powered Model A Tudor

tim@yblockguy.com  Visalia, California    Just west of the Sequoias




Reading This Topic


Site Meter