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VERY RARE Y-BLOCK KIT ON EBAY

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Dennis K. (12/12/2010)
The installation instructions state to "Build up your new Cylinder Head using your old valves, with the new Springs and Keepers furnished".

One of the reasons why I posted earlier why Ford would offer a kit with new cylinder heads, springs, and keepers, then tell you to use your old valves.  The only reason why would be the valves and retainers are stock components, and the heads, springs, and keepers are special.  Maybe the use of "seasoned" valves are a speed secret, since perhaps they are stabilized from the cyclic mechanical and thermal action.  LOL!!!    

More than likely, one would buy new valves and retainers to install,than re-use the old.

Anyone care to comment?

Because this kit is designed for the ’56 engines, I’ll surmise that the reasoning for using the original valves is that the valves being used would be either very low mileage or the kit was going on a brand new car which essentially would only have driving time going on and off the delivery trailer.  Looks like efforts were made to keep the kit as economical as possible and not including the valves was just one way of doing this.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)


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Oldmics.  Congratulations on your acquisition.  In looking at the bidding detail for the last 22 seconds, the kit went up in value by almost $2000.  That’s some serious bidding going on.  One things for sure, once you document the kit and get the information you require, the kit in its unmolested form is still resalable to the same persons that were interested in it this time.  And with a little bit more publicity and more interest being generated, could possibly even bring a profit.

 

I’ll be interested in whether the intake will work with a standard valley cover or not.  Gut feel says it will work with the standard cover though.  Also interested in what the head casting numbers are on the cylinder heads that are included in this kit.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)


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Oldmics (12/13/2010)

This kit will never be installed into a car or engine (as long as I own it). 

I became aware of the existance of this kit thru this Forum and saved for a year and a half for this auction.

Once the T Bird folks allow the dual quad 56 T Bird as a legal Concours vehicle-my job is done and I will probably sell the kit.

There were some interesting bidders including the prominent "Museum of American Speed" attempting to acquire the kit.

Oldmics

Congratulations on your purchase Oldmics!

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I will also say congratulations on the purchase, however I will bet Aussie Bill had something to do with driving the price up, he appears to have quite an elite collection of Y stuff (correct me if i am wrong Bill) and is probably always looking to add to it??

On the other hand, I beleive the original post said it supplied ECZ-C heads (if my seniliism isnt kicking in) which means it was the medium sized valve heads which would be correct for a 56 application.

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58 Rack Dump, 55 F350 yard truck, 57 F100

59 & 61 P 400's, 58 F100 custom cab, 69 F100, 79 F150, 82 F600 ramp truck, 90 mustang conv 7 up, 94 Mustang, Should I continue?

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Y block Billy (12/14/2010)
I will also say congratulations on the purchase, however I will bet Aussie Bill had something to do with driving the price up, he appears to have quite an elite collection of Y stuff (correct me if i am wrong Bill) and is probably always looking to add to it??

On the other hand, I beleive the original post said it supplied ECZ-C heads (if my seniliism isnt kicking in) which means it was the medium sized valve heads which would be correct for a 56 application.

Ha.Ha, billy, not this time!!!! Regardless of peoples interest in it, from a bolt it all on and use it view, was a lot of money, but as a "kit" probably worth it. The only parts i would like, would be the 2 carbs, i,m happy one of our guys got it!Tongue.

WISHING YOU ALL A MERRY XMAS AND Y BLOCK NEW YEAR!!

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I saw the article in YBM again this morning, and noticed a couple of curious things in the picture.  Unless some things were not removed from the crate for the photo, here's what I saw.  The intake, carb base, and water pump gaskets are shown, but I see no head gaskets, no tappet cover gasket, no rocker cover gaskets, no timing cover gasket.  Like I said, they may still be in the box.  Also, I noticed the vacuum advance supplied is a single diaphragm unit, where the production '56s had dual diaphragm.  I'm sure this is the right one for the kit, but why did Ford go back to the '55 unit for this kit?  In the instructions it says to plug the vacuum passage at the back of the rear carb, so the dual diaphragm one wasn't used.  I am not trying to discredit this kit in any manner, I just wanted to share some of my observations.  It is truly a neat historical piece.

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Oldmics (John)

Congratulations on this purchase! Definately a super rare score.

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Hoosier Hurricane (12/16/2010)
I saw the article in YBM again this morning, and noticed a couple of curious things in the picture.  Unless some things were not removed from the crate for the photo, here's what I saw.  The intake, carb base, and water pump gaskets are shown, but I see no head gaskets, no tappet cover gasket, no rocker cover gaskets, no timing cover gasket.  Like I said, they may still be in the box.  Also, I noticed the vacuum advance supplied is a single diaphragm unit, where the production '56s had dual diaphragm.  I'm sure this is the right one for the kit, but why did Ford go back to the '55 unit for this kit?  In the instructions it says to plug the vacuum passage at the back of the rear carb, so the dual diaphragm one wasn't used.  I am not trying to discredit this kit in any manner, I just wanted to share some of my observations.  It is truly a neat historical piece.

John, i agree with your observations and also add i noticed the 2 screw in core plugs beneath the intake were not obvious also, why would they not be there. But as we agree its a parts time capsule and great to see. regards bill.

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Excellent observations.

There are some mysterys about the parts in the kit.

Exactly one of the things to probe is the use of the 55 style diaphragm.I already know that in the "kit" there is a special distributor advance spring retainer pin that creates the particular distributor advance rate.

Once I have it in hand and analysed I will post on my findings.

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Old Mics:

We're waiting with baited breath for your observations.  I am interested in the camshaft specs, have you posted them anywhere here or in YBM?  I'm interested to see if it is the same as the one I have in my '57 Bird, bought from a Ford dealer as a B7A-C, but it isn't a 290 degree cam.  It has B7A-C hand stamped on the back of the rear journal.  Gordon Payne told me the hand stamped ones were service cams.  I have a theory that when I bought this cam, all the leftover performance cams got sold as "C" cams, figuring most customers (me included) would never know the difference. 

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