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VERY RARE Y-BLOCK KIT ON EBAY

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Dennis:

I read the bulletin again last evening, and it does say to install the included tappet cover and vent (draft tube?), and put the included block off plate on the block after removing the side vent.  I noticed no cover or gasket in the pics, I just didn't want to bring it up and possibly alter the sale in which I have no connection.

John, the sentence is a bit ambiguous and unclear.  In the same sentence it also states "Distributor", however no new distributor is furnished, only components to rework your present distributor.  If "furnished" applies to all the components in the sentence, then why is the word used twice in the same sentence for the "Breather Assembly" and "Plate and Gasket" (but not for Cylinder Heads)? 

Perhaps somewhere a Bill of Material exists.

Since the 8V intake manifold requires one to properly install, I assume one should of been supplied by Ford in the kit.  Perhaps when the next kit surfaces, this can be verified. 

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Dennis

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Perhaps when the next kit surfaces, this can be verified. Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Dennis, Old Mics:

Back in the '60s I traded for my 2-4 setup, which turned out to be a '56 setup.  I didn't get the whole kit, but got the manifold, carbs, linkage, fuel lines, a '57 air cleaner, and a tappet cover.  At the time I thought it was home made, it is made of about .093 flat plate with the baffles underneath spot welded on, and the fill tube brazed in.  I later found out it was indeed the factory cover, probably an interim piece until tooling could be made to stamp the recessed one.  The setup resides on my '56 Bird now.

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After posting the above, I looked at some info that John Sheperson sent me.  Enclosed was a copy of an ad from Sunyak's for a restored 260 kit.  No heads or cam, but did include a tappet cover, but that doesn't prove it came from the factory.  They also listed the carbs as ECJ-C, which doesn't correlate to '56 or '57 carb numbers.  The ad was from 2002.

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The majority of Sunyaks information and parts did not come from the factory Whistling

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I wasn't able to watch the very end of the ebay auction. An awful lot must have happened in the last ~8 minutes of the event when I wasn't still watching. If The Master Cylinder is correct and the kit went for $11,2000, somebody was really into 'Nostalgia', bragging rights, or starting a museum. Good Grief! The kit didn't even have posted heads with '57 high compression, or '57, '58, '59 big intake valves!



1) Think of what $11,200 could buy! -Probably a better cam kit than what was produced in '56, a set of John Mummert's new heads and single 4 barrel manifold, a brand new Tremec T-5 transmission with John's adapter, clutch, and pressure plate, a quality floor shifter, a better carburetor, and custom made stainless steel exhaust headers.



While I love the looks of the dual quad intake and early Holley teapots, you'd blow the doors off any vehicle this kit was put on with the set-up I've suggested. Also, you'd have money left to think about moving to a stroker kit to take advantage of the better breathing aluminum heads and intake manifold.



2) How can anyone really enjoy that 'kit' after paying that much for it?



3) IF the N.O.S. 'kit' is installed and run, it will no longer be worth anything close to the $5,800 bid on it when I got pulled away from the auction.



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well, here ya go, pal...





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Awwhhh,come on guys-please dont whine on how I spent my hard earned money.

The kit was acquired to prove to the Concours T Bird crowd that this kit WAS INDEED SLATED FOR INSTALLATION ONTO THUNDERBIRDS.

For many years there has been contention within certain T Bird groups that the kit was intended for passenger car installation only. 

The mechanics,instructions and parts in the kit prove beyond a doubt that it was also meant for installation on Thunderbirds.   

This kit will never be installed into a car or engine (as long as I own it). 

I became aware of the existance of this kit thru this Forum and saved for a year and a half for this auction.

The plans are to document all of the kits parts,figure out all of the unusual "race" items not before seen and understand their role within the kit for historical information purposes.

The kits camshaft has already been reverse engineered.It was obtained and "Cam Doctored" over the past summer from the original owner for analysis.

I have since had a "clone" camshaft ground from Dema Elgin that is now installed into my most recent 312 short block.Thanks to Dennis K for all of his help to create the "clone".

While not a hi lift device,you might be pretty surprised at the specs and timing issues intended on this cam.

Still waiting for my Mummert heads (John-you out there ? ) to compleat my engines assembly and installation into my T Bird.

Once the T Bird folks allow the dual quad 56 T Bird as a legal Concours vehicle-my job is done and I will probably sell the kit.

In my collection,I have multiple parts contained within the kit that I have adquired over the years.

There were some interesting bidders including the prominent "Museum of American Speed" attempting to acquire the kit.

Now all that I need is a N.O.S. 56 Mercury M 260 kit !

O.K.-words out,flame suit on w00t

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WoW, Oldmics!



You've put a different light on this auction for me! I had NO idea...



I respect the lengths you've gone to, to prove your point to C.T.C.I. and Gil Baumgartner, C.T.C.I. Authenticity Co-Chairman.



Congratulations and Kudos!



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Old Mics:

Congratulations!  Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought of your reason for buying it.  My thoughts were in the direction of someone buying the kit, building a clone '56 NASCAR car, and selling it for about $120,000 with a brand new, unfired, 260 in it.

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